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2020-11-09 03:12:35 <siraben> is anyone aware of a good tutorial on how to implement tail-call optimization in Haskell?
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2020-11-09 03:12:57 <Axman6> what do you mean?
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2020-11-09 03:13:35 <Axman6> TCO isn't a necessary optimisation in Haskell because the way that function calls work basically give you that for free
2020-11-09 03:13:53 <Axman6> (GHC Haskell)
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2020-11-09 03:20:40 <siraben> Axman6: Ah as in, if I'm making a compiler for a functional language and want to implement TCO myself
2020-11-09 03:21:00 hackage json-to-haskell 0.1.1.1 - https://hackage.haskell.org/package/json-to-haskell-0.1.1.1 (ChrisPenner)
2020-11-09 03:21:03 <Axman6> that's a very different question :P
2020-11-09 03:21:21 <Axman6> just jump to the code, BAM, done
2020-11-09 03:21:26 <siraben> Just reading my old question it wasn't clear semantically, heh. Note to self: people can't read your mind!
2020-11-09 03:21:35 <siraben> Yes but I have to recognize tail-calls right?
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2020-11-09 03:22:24 <Axman6> this really depends a lot on your language
2020-11-09 03:23:44 <siraben> Axman6: say it's https://github.com/jozefg/pcf/
2020-11-09 03:24:16 <texasmynsted> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13042353/does-haskell-have-tail-recursive-optimization
2020-11-09 03:24:19 <siraben> Technically a naïve graph reduction machine always uses tail jumps in the opcode interpretation however the stack context grows with recursive calls, so no
2020-11-09 03:24:43 <siraben> texasmynsted: Yes I'm aware of what TCO is, I'm looking to implement it in a functional compiler.
2020-11-09 03:25:22 <texasmynsted> By default, haskell has lazy evaluation.
2020-11-09 03:25:51 <siraben> To constraint the question further, suppose it's a strict, impure and functional language (like Scheme).
2020-11-09 03:27:40 <siraben> Oh I forgot, Lambda the Ultimate GOTO!
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2020-11-09 03:31:39 <dsal> I spent way too much time making software nobody else is ever going to need generally available today.
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2020-11-09 03:34:01 <Axman6> good work
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2020-11-09 03:34:55 <dsal> I guess I did the same thing yesterday, so maybe this is just normal.
2020-11-09 03:36:33 <justsomeguy> What does the Haskell report mean when it says declarations withing let expressions are mutually recursive?
2020-11-09 03:36:40 <dsal> I got to try optparse-generic today, though. I'm not sure if I like it, but I'm more sure than before I never tried it.
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2020-11-09 03:37:10 <dsal> justsomeguy: things defined in let can reference each otehr
2020-11-09 03:37:15 <dsal> s/other/otter/
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2020-11-09 03:37:29 <justsomeguy> Ahh, ok, that helps.
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2020-11-09 03:38:46 <justsomeguy> Otters should definitely be able to reference each other; they form a tight-knit community.
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2020-11-09 03:39:00 <dsal> ha. mnemonic
2020-11-09 03:39:20 <justsomeguy> :)
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2020-11-09 03:41:30 <P1p> hi
2020-11-09 03:41:51 <dsal> Oh cool, stack changed the way they specify resolvers in stack.yaml and broke default.nix
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2020-11-09 03:45:05 hackage json-to-haskell 0.1.1.2 - https://hackage.haskell.org/package/json-to-haskell-0.1.1.2 (ChrisPenner)
2020-11-09 03:46:01 hackage crdt-event-fold 1.2.0.0 - Garbage collected event folding CRDT. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/crdt-event-fold-1.2.0.0 (rickowens)
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2020-11-09 03:55:47 <P1p> hello everyone
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2020-11-09 03:57:09 <P1p> yo
2020-11-09 03:57:14 <P1p> there you are
2020-11-09 03:57:20 <p0kerf4ce> woah thats a lot of people
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