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2020-10-25 03:20:52 <guy> is this the place to ask haskell related questions
2020-10-25 03:21:25 <xacktm> check the /topic
2020-10-25 03:21:30 <xacktm> tl;dr yes :)
2020-10-25 03:22:43 <guy> okay thanks :) I don't really know how to check that
2020-10-25 03:23:03 <guy> I'm having a problem installing a Win32 package with cabal
2020-10-25 03:25:10 <guy> Apparently it couldn't execute one of the files in the package Win32-2.8.3.0, ".../ghc/inplace/mingw/bin/ld.exe"
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2020-10-25 03:26:13 <guy> I'm a bit lost on what to do here because this seems to be a problem with the package uploaded
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2020-10-25 03:30:55 <davean> Thats not in the package, thats in your GHC install I think
2020-10-25 03:32:54 <davean> ld is the linker
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2020-10-25 03:33:37 <guy> oh okay thank you
2020-10-25 03:34:11 <guy> I was trying to install a later version of Win32 than the one that is included with the Haskell Platform
2020-10-25 03:34:17 <davean> I'd help you more but I haven't seen a windows system in decades
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2020-10-25 03:34:39 <guy> that's fine, thank you
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2020-10-25 03:36:24 <guy> I think I'm in a bit over my head with this stuff anyways. I'll just stick to what I have and see what I can do
2020-10-25 03:36:41 <jle`> i wanted to maybe write a haskell clone for Among Us, but i'm stuck because I can't think of a good pun
2020-10-25 03:36:50 <jle`> i guess this is most projects die huh
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2020-10-25 03:37:05 <guy> Lamdang Us
2020-10-25 03:37:28 <guy> Lambdang us
2020-10-25 03:37:29 <jle`> hmm
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2020-10-25 03:38:14 <jle`> :(
2020-10-25 03:38:26 <MarcelineVQ> Existential Crisis :> but by the time you're done the fad will be over
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2020-10-25 03:38:43 <jle`> mostly a learning exercise :)
2020-10-25 03:38:55 <jle`> Forall Us
2020-10-25 03:39:01 <jle`> :O
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2020-10-25 03:41:45 <koz_> jle`: Exists a.
2020-10-25 03:41:50 <jle`> Amonadung Us
2020-10-25 03:42:12 <jle`> koz_: :o
2020-10-25 03:42:24 <jle`> Exists a. Imposter a
2020-10-25 03:42:38 <jle`> exists a. Imposter a => a
2020-10-25 03:43:38 <koz_> 'Exists a' gets across the point much better at least.
2020-10-25 03:43:43 <c_wraith> jle`: I already stole a perfect option.
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2020-10-25 03:45:45 <jle`> c_wraith: oh?
2020-10-25 03:45:58 <jle`> koz_: nicely succinct
2020-10-25 03:45:58 <c_wraith> (look at my hostmask)
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2020-10-25 03:47:01 <jle`> heh heh
2020-10-25 03:47:06 <MarcelineVQ> neat hostmask but what's a jaldabaoth?
2020-10-25 03:47:38 <koz_> MarcelineVQ: Some DnD monster I think?
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2020-10-25 03:58:08 <emmanuel_erc> Is there some truth to the claim that the Haskell compiler is slow? (This was a statement a coworker said to me)
2020-10-25 03:59:12 <monsterchrom> Depends on how much you're prepared to bend "some" "truth".
2020-10-25 03:59:55 <monsterchrom> Type inference is worst-case expoential time, there will be a few carefully designed terms and types that force that.
2020-10-25 04:00:22 <monsterchrom> The fact remains that this worst-case doesn't happen to useful programs.
2020-10-25 04:00:57 <c_wraith> There are definitely things you can do to make your program slow
2020-10-25 04:01:15 <c_wraith> GHC isn't great with huge string literals or types with thousands of constructors
2020-10-25 04:03:02 <monsterchrom> I actually know an actual worst-case example from Okasaki. And yet, I don't just go around citing it as though it's the only thing you should care. In fact, I avoid citing it because clearly it is such a bizarre example you shouldn't care.
2020-10-25 04:03:34 <monsterchrom> I bet your coworker is the opposite. Never saw any actual example, and still go around spreading hearsay like it's the only important thing.
2020-10-25 04:03:40 <c_wraith> GHC definitely stresses linx's default linker, too
2020-10-25 04:03:58 <c_wraith> *linux
2020-10-25 04:04:05 <monsterchrom> You should put such people on your ignore list.
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2020-10-25 04:08:05 <monsterchrom> For life is too short to investigate every hearsay where the speaker doesn't bother to cite evidence or give examples.
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2020-10-25 04:08:42 <gattytto> hello, I'm trying to build the haskell-servant minimum example using ghc-8.10.1 and I have added all the recommended extra-deps to stack.yaml. But while building aeson it says "out of memory". I have tried adding --ghc-options=" -j1 +RST -MXXXXM" with no avail
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2020-10-25 04:08:56 <gattytto> is there anything else I can do to avoid memory exhaustion? both in cabal build and stack build
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2020-10-25 04:09:44 <monsterchrom> I'm afraid --ghc-options="-j1" is barking up the wrong tree.
2020-10-25 04:10:11 <monsterchrom> It would be stack itself and cabal itself that decides to spawn 4 instance of GHC at the same time.
2020-10-25 04:10:31 <monsterchrom> as opposed to one instance of GHC deciding to spawn 4 jobs
2020-10-25 04:10:53 <monsterchrom> Your -j1 should be given to stack or cabal
2020-10-25 04:10:53 <gattytto> ah yes cabal has -j arg
2020-10-25 04:11:02 <gattytto> thanks I'll try that
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2020-10-25 04:36:28 <MarcelineVQ> aeson is pretty heavy by itself still so fingers crossed
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