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2021-03-13 01:27:57 <infinisil> hololeap: I've realized that I don't even need it lol
2021-03-13 01:28:42 <infinisil> Because in my case, I'm gonna want to turn all types into json Value's anyways
2021-03-13 01:28:51 <infinisil> And then I can just `limitRecursion :: Int -> Value -> Value`
2021-03-13 01:29:08 <infinisil> No need to mess with Generics and typeclasses
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2021-03-13 01:29:44 <infinisil> But, this was an interesting experiment regardless :)
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2021-03-13 01:41:17 <koz_> Does ByteString's take and drop cause allocations?
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2021-03-13 01:56:11 <infinisil> koz_: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/bytestring-0.11.1.0/docs/src/Data.ByteString.html#take
2021-03-13 01:56:36 <koz_> Based on this, I assume it's 'yes', because it has to 're-wrap'?
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2021-03-13 01:58:21 <infinisil> koz_: Oh, you mean whether it even allocates a single byte?
2021-03-13 01:58:26 <koz_> infinisil: Yes.
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2021-03-13 01:59:51 <infinisil> koz_: Hmm I guess in general it can, but with rewrite rules and inlining I wouldn't be surprised for it not to in many cases
2021-03-13 02:00:14 <koz_> infinisil: Hmm. I might have to think about this some more.
2021-03-13 02:00:25 <infinisil> koz_: What's the motivation?
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2021-03-13 02:00:48 <koz_> I'm tweaking the matching implementation for text-ascii to speed it up. I currently race text pretty well, but I allocate more than text does.
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2021-03-13 02:03:25 <infinisil> Hmm well text's take actually doesn't even appear to be O(n)
2021-03-13 02:03:37 <infinisil> sorry, it _is_ O(n)
2021-03-13 02:03:39 <koz_> infinisil: The 'take' part isn't what I'm optimizing.
2021-03-13 02:03:51 <koz_> I'm posting something to bytestring's issue tracker, that may clear it up.
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2021-03-13 02:05:43 <koz_> infinisil: https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/issues/307#issuecomment-797847849
2021-03-13 02:06:55 <koz_> You can scroll to the bottom to see the code, and the benchmarks show the unwanted allocs.
2021-03-13 02:07:04 <koz_> If you have better ideas on why this is happening, I'm definitely all ears.
2021-03-13 02:08:51 <infinisil> koz_: Ah you're referring to the -O0 results where text-ascii sometimes allocates where text doesn't?
2021-03-13 02:09:03 <koz_> Yes.
2021-03-13 02:09:06 <koz_> This also happens on -O1.
2021-03-13 02:09:20 <koz_> At -O2 text drives off the cliff, but the allocs are still there.
2021-03-13 02:09:26 <koz_> And I'd rather they weren't if possible.
2021-03-13 02:09:43 <koz_> My only candidate for why this is happening is the 'let fragment = ...' computation.
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2021-03-13 02:10:06 <infinisil> Once in -O2, ascii-text doesn't allocate but text does
2021-03-13 02:10:15 <koz_> It still does.
2021-03-13 02:10:18 <infinisil> Are these benchmarks repeatable with the same results?
2021-03-13 02:10:22 <ntkr> hello all, I'm trying to write a websockets application with RIO and am getting hung up on how to extend the RIO monad to the functions that the websockets library needs. Any help here is much appreciated: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/bbXsCmh5
2021-03-13 02:10:27 <koz_> infinisil: Very consistently.
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2021-03-13 02:11:20 <koz_> The allocations done by text-ascii don't go away irrespective of -O level.
2021-03-13 02:11:31 <koz_> Check the 'No match' lines in both blocks, for example.
2021-03-13 02:11:43 <koz_> (text just allocates hilariously more)
2021-03-13 02:11:46 <infinisil> koz_: I'd try memory profiling to figure out where exactly the allocs happen
2021-03-13 02:12:02 <infinisil> I've been wanting to try out https://well-typed.com/blog/2021/01/first-look-at-hi-profiling-mode/
2021-03-13 02:12:04 <koz_> infinisil: What's the option to pass to 'cabal bench' to have it profile memory?
2021-03-13 02:12:35 <koz_> Ah, this.
2021-03-13 02:13:12 <koz_> So compile with -eventlog, then run with -hT?
2021-03-13 02:13:43 <infinisil> Haven't tried it out myself, I'd check the blog post :)
2021-03-13 02:14:15 <koz_> I'm not completely clear from it, because they use raw GHC.
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2021-03-13 02:14:28 <koz_> I'll try adding -eventlog and -hT and see wat happen.
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2021-03-13 02:14:42 <koz_> How recent a GHC do I need?
2021-03-13 02:14:51 <infinisil> It should be in 8.10.2 (the blog mentions that too)
2021-03-13 02:14:58 <koz_> OK, cool.
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2021-03-13 02:15:41 <infinisil> actually it mentions that there's a backport for 8.10.2, not sure if it's merged (I'd think so though)

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