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2020-11-22 20:27:55 <texasmynsted> Iceland_jack: Nice nick
2020-11-22 20:28:01 <Iceland_jack> oh thanks
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2020-11-22 20:28:07 <texasmynsted> Who is cooler than cool?
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2020-11-22 20:29:12 <merijn> Anyone with a GHC error mentioning them by name? ;)
2020-11-22 20:30:44 <Iceland_jack> I used to find them by accident, now I can't find them on purpose
2020-11-22 20:31:00 <maerwald> wz1000: https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/latest/docs/html/users_guide/glasgow_exts.html#strict-patterns
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2020-11-22 20:34:25 <f-a> hekkaidekapus: what do you understand from the warning? is the .csv already clean or else?
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2020-11-22 20:35:39 <hekkaidekapus> f-a: My opinion is that the questions where some data points are missing should have been removed from the results.
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2020-11-22 20:36:33 <hekkaidekapus> Instead, the results’ URL not only kept them, but went on to do interpolation (a linear one from the look of it).
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2020-11-22 20:36:41 <MarcelineVQ> merijn: that would never happen :>
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2020-11-22 20:37:36 <hekkaidekapus> f-a: And interpolating with such a high number of NAs is even worse than mixing dirty and clean data.
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2020-11-22 20:37:42 <monochrom> If you call yourself skolem, some error messages will mention your name.
2020-11-22 20:38:05 <f-a> hekkaidekapus: sorry where do you see interpolation?
2020-11-22 20:38:35 <hekkaidekapus> f-a: At <https://taylor.fausak.me/2020/11/22/haskell-survey-results/>
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2020-11-22 20:39:01 <f-a> oh you mean in the graphs, I see
2020-11-22 20:39:07 <hekkaidekapus> Yep.
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2020-11-22 20:39:10 <f-a> > summary(s$startedAt) Min. 1st Qu. Median
2020-11-22 20:39:10 <f-a> "2020-10-31 18:23:10" "2020-11-01 17:17:21" "2020-11-02 05:46:14"
2020-11-22 20:39:12 <lambdabot> error:
2020-11-22 20:39:12 <lambdabot> Variable not in scope: summary :: t0 -> t2 -> b1 -> cerror: Variable not...
2020-11-22 20:39:12 <lambdabot> • Data constructor not in scope: Min
2020-11-22 20:39:16 <f-a> not sure they have been removed
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2020-11-22 20:43:27 <f-a> also there are surveys completed in 7 seconds… :s
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2020-11-22 20:45:44 <hekkaidekapus> f-a: I reckon you are playing around with the raw data. Have fun! I will not participate; if you want datasets to play with in Haskell, go to NCBI, OpenStreetMap or something :) (As I said, a statistical pedant…)
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2020-11-22 20:46:26 <f-a> hekkaidekapus: worse than that, I am playing in R
2020-11-22 20:46:34 <hekkaidekapus> heh
2020-11-22 20:47:30 <hekkaidekapus> That’s self-torture then. R ships with a dozens datasets…
2020-11-22 20:47:31 <f-a> but if we remove the offending answers (first 24 hours), what are your gripes?
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2020-11-22 20:48:52 <hekkaidekapus> The ‘Non Available Problem’ is my gripe. It has extensive literature and I don’t fill digging for some refs now.
2020-11-22 20:49:24 <hekkaidekapus> s/fill/feel/
2020-11-22 20:49:48 <f-a> hekkaidekapus: well, I am using Gower distance, and (in some cases, of course) using asymmetric binaries to «solve» the problem (if we are talking about the same problem, that is)
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2020-11-22 20:51:36 <hekkaidekapus> Have fun. I’d like to pursue further, but that would be better suited for #haskell-offtopic and I’m not going there.
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2020-11-22 21:16:54 <wz1000> Does anyone know what the different colors on the graphs mean in the survey?
2020-11-22 21:17:59 <f-a> wz I suspect the pale violet means: including «bugged» submissions
2020-11-22 21:18:06 <f-a> * wz1000
2020-11-22 21:18:20 <maerwald> I think it means the previous year
2020-11-22 21:18:49 <maerwald> But I think I'm wrong
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2020-11-22 21:19:08 <maerwald> Since single-select doesn't have two colors
2020-11-22 21:19:18 <f-a> yeah that was my reasoning
2020-11-22 21:19:40 <wz1000> In either case, is it cumulative? (As in, does pale violet include the dark violet as a subset?)
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2020-11-22 21:20:03 <f-a> it has to be, wz1000
2020-11-22 21:20:33 <f-a> as the spurious surveys can only add
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2020-11-22 21:23:38 <maerwald> the gender result is somewhat troubling
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2020-11-22 21:26:48 <maerwald> I think we're below average

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