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2021-04-09 17:09:23 <fendor> monochrom, I think --output is an option to criterion
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2021-04-09 17:11:02 <isovector> i am probably being stupid but i can't figure out how to search hackage. hoogle doesn't seem to index lots of packages?
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2021-04-09 17:12:00 <isovector> eg: MonadLsp is definitely in hackage: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lsp-1.2.0.0/docs/Language-LSP-Server.html#t:MonadLsp, but hoogle can't find it: https://hoogle.haskell.org/?hoogle=MonadLsp
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2021-04-09 17:12:14 <geekosaur> iirc hoogle doesn't expose all packages by default, you need to use +package
2021-04-09 17:12:33 <isovector> that's not super helpful if i don't know what package it's in :(
2021-04-09 17:12:37 <isovector> is there a better solution here?
2021-04-09 17:12:50 <fendor> I thought hoogle only indexes stackage?
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2021-04-09 17:13:06 <geekosaur> not really. stackage if the package is included in it
2021-04-09 17:13:14 <isovector> how do other people find things? surely i am not the only person with this problem
2021-04-09 17:13:41 <hyperisco> Hoogle, Hackage, #haskell, web search a distant fourth
2021-04-09 17:13:42 <edmundnoble> It's annoying yeah, hayoo did something different
2021-04-09 17:13:57 <edmundnoble> But has since disappeared
2021-04-09 17:14:22 geekosaur misses hayoo
2021-04-09 17:14:26 <isovector> but the hackage search still suggests it: https://hackage.haskell.org/packages/search?terms=MonadLsp
2021-04-09 17:15:15 <fendor> I dont think the hackage search indexes for functions
2021-04-09 17:15:27 <edmundnoble> isovector means at the bottom of the page
2021-04-09 17:15:30 <isovector> i know. i'm just pointing out that that link should be updated
2021-04-09 17:15:31 <edmundnoble> It links to hayoo
2021-04-09 17:15:51 <fendor> ah, I see
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2021-04-09 17:17:04 <isovector> this seems like the sort of high value thing HF could tackle
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2021-04-09 17:17:27 <edmundnoble> Hoogle has other issues yeah, perhaps
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2021-04-09 17:30:48 <isovector> nobody has workarounds for this? :(
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2021-04-09 17:35:02 <geekosaur> I gather hoogle doesn't expose everything because the indexes get too big
2021-04-09 17:35:38 <hyperisco> does Haskell have any corporate sponsors?
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2021-04-09 17:37:59 <isovector> somehow serokell is able to do regex over all of hackage? surely that's a more demanding problem?
2021-04-09 17:38:03 <maerwald> hyperisco: yes
2021-04-09 17:38:44 <geekosaur> regex isn't computing type information (remember that type-based search is a big feature of hoogle)
2021-04-09 17:39:02 <isovector> yes, but that is a completely separate thing here. i'm just searching by name
2021-04-09 17:39:14 <isovector> and find it hard to believe i am the only person put off by this :)
2021-04-09 17:40:06 <hyperisco> I think you found yourself an open source contribution opportunity isovector
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2021-04-09 17:45:59 <isovector> i've got enough, thanks!
2021-04-09 17:46:35 <isovector> now, if someone wanted to _pay_ me for this...
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2021-04-09 17:52:20 <hyperisco> so in the end you'll just have to muddle through it like the rest of us :P
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2021-04-09 17:54:27 <monochrom> I heard that serious users of hoogle install hoogle locally and have it index packages installed locally.
2021-04-09 17:55:48 <monochrom> I don't need hoogle but I'm an ardent believer of building docs locally.
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2021-04-09 17:56:38 <hololeap> if you index hoogle locally, you can expose hidden modules. but then again the packages have to be installed, so...
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2021-04-09 17:57:43 <monochrom> If you use a library then you have to install it in the first place. I don't see that as a bottleneck.
2021-04-09 17:58:06 <monochrom> Until one day the cloud dream comes so true that you can install nothing and use everything.
2021-04-09 18:00:04 <tomsmeding> unless you're using hoogle to find out what library to install :)
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2021-04-09 18:17:40 <SoF> monochrom: and be used by everything :)
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