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2020-10-16 21:03:42 <monochrom> I'm waiting for one last straw to be an excuse to ban them. :)
2020-10-16 21:03:56 <monochrom> Actually if some of you already want to ban now, I can do it.
2020-10-16 21:04:28 hackage buffet 0.5.0 - Assembles many Dockerfiles in one. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/buffet-0.5.0 (evolutics)
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2020-10-16 21:10:06 <proofofme> which package do you guys use to convert a string of CSV to a list of elements? I saw there are several
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2020-10-16 21:13:42 <monochrom> I use cassava
2020-10-16 21:14:45 <monochrom> More honestly, there is some 10% of the easy case I just use Data.List.span/break and split at commas :)
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2020-10-16 21:16:19 <monochrom> But I escalate to cassava when I need it properly done, esp if there is something like 43591,"monochrom, inc."
2020-10-16 21:16:44 <proofofme> thank you! I will try Data.List.span/break!
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2020-10-16 21:24:45 <proofofme> hmmm. how does span translate the literal string to the list of elements?
2020-10-16 21:25:03 <monochrom> It doesn't. It just splits on the first comma.
2020-10-16 21:25:21 <monochrom> Actually even a bit less than that.
2020-10-16 21:25:45 <monochrom> > break (',' ==) "abc,def,ghi"
2020-10-16 21:25:47 <lambdabot> ("abc",",def,ghi")
2020-10-16 21:26:28 <monochrom> You add your own code to detect the leading comma in ",def..." and strip it
2020-10-16 21:26:44 <monochrom> You also add your own recursion to continue.
2020-10-16 21:27:15 <monochrom> You can steal code from "words" keeping in mind "words" splits on spaces.
2020-10-16 21:27:41 <proofofme> hmmm I seee
2020-10-16 21:27:58 <proofofme> can this be foldr'ed?
2020-10-16 21:28:08 <monochrom> and the fact that words "abc def" = ["abc", "def"] but you want something different for "abc,,,,,def"
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2020-10-16 21:28:28 hackage postgres-websockets 0.10.0.0 - Middleware to map LISTEN/NOTIFY messages to Websockets https://hackage.haskell.org/package/postgres-websockets-0.10.0.0 (diogob)
2020-10-16 21:28:36 <monochrom> No.
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2020-10-16 21:30:45 <monochrom> Maybe I should also let you know of http://hackage.haskell.org/package/split so you don't have to write your own recursion.
2020-10-16 21:31:04 <monochrom> But here is my real consideration:
2020-10-16 21:31:50 <monochrom> If you don't plan to worry about 43591,"monochrom, inc.", why incur a dependency? The recursion is just 3 lines.
2020-10-16 21:32:27 <monochrom> If you do want to incur a dependency, why not incur the proper one?
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2020-10-16 21:33:08 <proofofme> so you WOULD use the split package for an easy case?
2020-10-16 21:33:15 <monochrom> No.
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2020-10-16 21:34:11 <proofofme> the elements I want to split contain stuff like the 43591, "monochrom, inc."
2020-10-16 21:34:25 <monochrom> Then use cassava
2020-10-16 21:34:28 <proofofme> there are a lot of random chars, even ',' that will be in it. ah ok
2020-10-16 21:34:30 <proofofme> cool
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2020-10-16 21:41:36 <johnw> gentauro: I was thinking of 'fog'
2020-10-16 21:42:27 <gentauro> johnw: ahh, fair nok
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2020-10-16 21:58:51 <dibblego> I use https://hackage.haskell.org/package/sv
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2020-10-16 22:02:12 <frdg> why would somebody search for functions on stackage instead of hoogle?
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2020-10-16 22:02:46 <monochrom> Is that a rhetorical question?
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2020-10-16 22:03:41 <frdg> no. I saw someone use it in a video. This is what I mean by stackage. https://www.stackage.org/
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2020-10-16 22:04:39 <monochrom> I don't use stack or stackage. But I think I understand that a stackage user would like to avoid getting search hits that hit outside stackage.
2020-10-16 22:06:29 <frdg> alright. As always I am confused about what stack even is. I used stack for my project and I was able to use packages from everywhere.
2020-10-16 22:06:33 <monochrom> I certainly do the parallel thing myself. When I'm looking for "getArgs" in the libraries I actually have, I'm not going to Google it worldwide.
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2020-10-16 22:07:45 <frdg> ohh stackage is like hackage.
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2020-10-16 22:08:09 <monochrom> stackage is a meticulously hand-checked subset of hackage.
2020-10-16 22:08:50 <frdg> ok I see
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2020-10-16 22:09:09 <monochrom> and the subsetness is along at least 2 orthogonal axis at the same time.
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2020-10-16 22:11:21 <monochrom> I had a software engineering prof who explained how to achieve reproducible, consistent build of legacy software. Say for example you have pretty old but time-tested code, you just need to fix a small bug.
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2020-10-16 22:12:22 <monochrom> You may have to be so anal down to the point you have to keep around the old compiler version you used last time, the old OS you used last time, the old hardware you used last time.
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2020-10-16 22:13:02 <monochrom> stackage's purpose is doing that for library dependencies.
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