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2020-11-19 18:21:11 <koz_> And of course 'guard' is from Control.Monad. That odd sock drawer of a module.
2020-11-19 18:21:11 <dolio> I think people should really leave out the 'black hole' stuff from write-ups like this.
2020-11-19 18:23:02 <koz_> Rod Downey famously claims that 'it's an open problem' is an 80% accurate heuristic for correct answers to complexity theory questions. At this point, I think 'Control.Monad' is an 80% accurate heuristic for correct answers to 'where on earth in base is this function?'-type questions.
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2020-11-19 18:24:22 <monochrom> You have to narrow the scope to "combinators that are good for all Applicatives, Alternatives, Monads, or MonadPluses". But yeah.
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2020-11-19 18:24:43 <koz_> monochrom: I dunno if I'm just special, but those are the kinds of things I need a lot, and can never find.
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2020-11-19 18:25:21 <monochrom> It is historical. 2 decades ago, there was only Functor and Monad, and module-wise there was only Control.Monad, not even Data.Functor, so all the cool tools got into there.
2020-11-19 18:25:58 <monochrom> I guess 2 decades ago the module name was just Monad, too.
2020-11-19 18:26:01 <ski> (and before hierarchical, wasn't there just `Monad' ?)
2020-11-19 18:26:06 <monochrom> Yeah that
2020-11-19 18:26:37 <koz_> Oh, I get why it is that way.
2020-11-19 18:26:44 <koz_> It's just amusing to me.
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2020-11-19 18:27:31 hackage ivory-avr-atmega328p-registers 0.1.0.0 - Ivory register bindings for the Atmega328p https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ivory-avr-atmega328p-registers-0.1.0.0 (erdeszt)
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2020-11-19 18:32:59 <monochrom> I enjoy using history to explain why things suck today. Those who have learned from history are doomed to helplessly watching other people repeat it.
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2020-11-19 18:38:57 <koz_> monochrom: After all, everything is either history or applied history? :P
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2020-11-19 18:50:59 <zincy__> koz_: Are you by any chance from New Zealand?
2020-11-19 18:51:10 <koz_> zincy__: I am, by chance, from there.
2020-11-19 18:51:19 <koz_> Was the Rod Downey mention the giveaway?
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2020-11-19 18:52:55 <zincy__> Juspay?
2020-11-19 18:53:03 <koz_> zincy__: Contractor, but yes.
2020-11-19 18:53:22 <zincy__> Yes we talked a bit about logic and discrete mathematics there
2020-11-19 18:53:32 <koz_> Oh hi!
2020-11-19 18:53:35 <zincy__> hehe
2020-11-19 18:53:45 <zincy__> Hi
2020-11-19 18:54:03 <koz_> Guess it figures Haskellers hang out here.
2020-11-19 18:54:33 <zincy__> Yeah I saw the name and thought hmm that is a familiar name.
2020-11-19 18:54:43 <koz_> I'm some variant of 'Koz' everywhere.
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2020-11-19 19:14:00 hackage nonempty-vector 0.2.1.0 - Non-empty vectors https://hackage.haskell.org/package/nonempty-vector-0.2.1.0 (topos)
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