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2021-04-10 05:35:48 <davean> I mean -> is also Num and Monad, and I'm not seeing you ask what the difference between Num and -> are
2021-04-10 05:37:47 <davean> (a horrible, no good, very bad instance but whatever)
2021-04-10 05:37:53 <zzz> if (->) is a Monad and Arrow is a Monad, I would ask what's the difference between (->) and Arrow
2021-04-10 05:39:18 <davean> Whats the difference between Ord and Num?
2021-04-10 05:39:35 <davean> And the fact that Int is both of them makes them the same tihng I guess?
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2021-04-10 05:40:10 <zzz> i think we are misunderstanding eachother
2021-04-10 05:40:11 <davean> I'd try to explain better but I don't understand your thinking here enough to make a useful comment
2021-04-10 05:40:14 <gnumonic> I dunno that "why is X a Y" (where Y is a typeclass) is ever a question with an interesting answer. X is always a Y because you can define an instance that satisfies the laws...
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2021-04-10 05:41:38 <davean> gnumonic: right. It doesn't really imply any relation other than that the law hold - and it certainly doesn't imply that that being true is interesting
2021-04-10 05:42:11 <davean> They exist at different levels and one is an observation about another
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2021-04-10 05:43:17 <expipiplus1[m]> hi all
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2021-04-10 05:47:02 <juri_> hi more all.
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2021-04-10 05:48:32 <zzz> right, let e rephrase that. (->) is an Arrow and all Arrows are Profunctors. Is there a need for (->) to be firectly declared a Profunctor instance, if we already have it for Arrows?
2021-04-10 05:49:15 <zzz> s/e/me | s/fireclty/directly
2021-04-10 05:49:17 <davean> Profunctor isn't a superclass of arrow
2021-04-10 05:50:40 <zzz> hmm
2021-04-10 05:53:12 <zzz> i see
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2021-04-10 05:53:18 <zzz> thank you
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2021-04-10 05:54:36 <davean> Direct questions like that are so much easier :)
2021-04-10 05:55:29 <juri_> davean: why does my code suck? :)
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