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2020-11-21 18:32:03 <zyklotomic> it definitely is good publicity for the language
2020-11-21 18:32:06 <monochrom> My view is they were too lazy to design and implement a proper config format.
2020-11-21 18:32:10 × neiluj quits (~jco@unaffiliated/neiluj) (Quit: leaving)
2020-11-21 18:32:17 <zyklotomic> ...and called it a feature
2020-11-21 18:32:19 <merijn> monochrom: Compromise: It was both
2020-11-21 18:32:35 <merijn> monochrom: Can you blame them? Dhall hadn't been invented yet!
2020-11-21 18:32:53 <monochrom> They could have invented dhall or better.
2020-11-21 18:33:22 <geekosaur> the problem with monochrom's view is that spencer was a dwm user and explicitly cloned dwm
2020-11-21 18:33:32 <dsal> et09: I have a chromebook pixel I pulled the screw out of. It runs nixos+xmonad now.
2020-11-21 18:33:36 <geekosaur> "because haskell was better at doing edsls"
2020-11-21 18:33:41 <merijn> geekosaur: That's the suckless one?
2020-11-21 18:33:47 <geekosaur> yeh
2020-11-21 18:34:15 <zyklotomic> i guess theres dozens of us! dsal
2020-11-21 18:34:16 <merijn> I wonder if they're still around, or if they've given up in the onslaught of terrible software :p
2020-11-21 18:34:34 <geekosaur> dunno
2020-11-21 18:35:01 <geekosaur> they've not exactly lived up to their name at times, thoguh; they've had some pretty terrible bugs
2020-11-21 18:35:42 <merijn> To be fair, the main motivation/ideology wasn't "less buggy"
2020-11-21 18:36:01 <merijn> It was simpler, clearer, and less resource intensive
2020-11-21 18:36:16 × Boomerang quits (~Boomerang@xd520f68c.cust.hiper.dk) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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2020-11-21 18:36:27 <zyklotomic> and have it "suck less"
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2020-11-21 18:36:31 <monochrom> All three were destroyed by migrating to Haskell and GHC.
2020-11-21 18:36:37 <merijn> monochrom: ;)
2020-11-21 18:37:03 <merijn> monochrom: And yet Haskell still sucks less than C :p
2020-11-21 18:37:14 <merijn> Hell, Haskell is a better C than C :p
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2020-11-21 18:46:26 <tomsmeding> I'm happily using suckless' st terminal
2020-11-21 18:46:36 <tomsmeding> one datapoint :p
2020-11-21 18:46:43 <merijn> There's no way to make terminals suck less :p
2020-11-21 18:46:58 <tomsmeding> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2020-11-21 18:47:37 <tomsmeding> would be interesting to meet a person that actually uses ii
2020-11-21 18:47:56 <merijn> tomsmeding: Out of morbid curiosity? :p
2020-11-21 18:48:01 <tomsmeding> yes :p
2020-11-21 18:48:40 <merijn> tomsmeding: There's two kinds of people. People who like terminals, and people who've read the APUE chapter on terminals and know how they work and what kinda weird abomination they are >.>
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2020-11-21 18:49:15 tomsmeding doesn't know what APUE is, but I know how ansi escape sequences work, does that count?
2020-11-21 18:49:39 × son0p quits (~son0p@181.58.39.182) (Quit: leaving)
2020-11-21 18:49:45 <merijn> tomsmeding: Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment
2020-11-21 18:50:01 <merijn> The bible for anyone who wants any hope of writing remotely robust portable posix code :)
2020-11-21 18:51:25 <dolio> Seems to me the problem is that people generally want to replace terminals with something worse, rather than better.
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2020-11-21 18:52:16 <merijn> dolio: Doesn't that hold for basically every technology? :p
2020-11-21 18:52:51 <dolio> Probably.
2020-11-21 18:52:52 <merijn> dolio: See TypeInType ;)
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2020-11-21 18:59:03 <qqqqqq> 6Lets praise Allah; 3he is our God, thee one; he is the god of Moses; Noah; Jesus & Mohammed; he sent us our Book 7 Quran, 10Monotheism is cleared by all prophets ~ 6 We get heaven & happiness on earth by praying to the one god 6& by Saying No God except Allah & that Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. 4 treat others as u like to be treated 10---------;{@
2020-11-21 18:59:05 ← qqqqqq parts (~Me@185.142.40.159) ()
2020-11-21 18:59:55 <Uniaika> *sigh*
2020-11-21 19:00:34 <tomsmeding> well it is nice and colourful
2020-11-21 19:00:45 <[exa]> the last part actually made some sense
2020-11-21 19:00:54 <tomsmeding> except for the ;{@
2020-11-21 19:00:57 <[exa]> I give 3 stars out of 5 and ban
2020-11-21 19:01:03 <merijn> [exa]: Agreed, we should bring back ascii roses
2020-11-21 19:01:05 <Uniaika> nah the rose was decent, [exa]
2020-11-21 19:01:08 <Uniaika> I've seen worse
2020-11-21 19:01:10 <[exa]> lol
2020-11-21 19:01:12 <tomsmeding> oh that's a rose?
2020-11-21 19:01:15 <Uniaika> yeah
2020-11-21 19:01:22 tomsmeding is too young for this shit
2020-11-21 19:01:29 <Uniaika> lol, how old are you? tomsmeding
2020-11-21 19:01:31 <merijn> tomsmeding: Usually in MUDs they'd use that for flowers/roses
2020-11-21 19:01:33 <hpc> all i saw was an unmatched squiggly brace
2020-11-21 19:01:42 <merijn> Man...I miss MUDs...
2020-11-21 19:01:44 <dolio> Missed an opportunity to color the rose correctly.
2020-11-21 19:01:52 <tomsmeding> lol I'm 22 Uniaika
2020-11-21 19:02:02 <Uniaika> tomsmeding: :D
2020-11-21 19:02:03 <Uniaika> nice
2020-11-21 19:02:06 <merijn> they were like MMOs, but before the massive exploitation of the modern games industry
2020-11-21 19:02:06 <Uniaika> some young blood
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2020-11-21 19:02:08 <tomsmeding> I didn't have IRC in my life until recently
2020-11-21 19:02:11 <hpc> but it's in a comment so i guess that's fine :P
2020-11-21 19:02:14 <[exa]> merijn: let's waste a month playing ishar?
2020-11-21 19:02:26 <Uniaika> tomsmeding: I'm 25 myself
2020-11-21 19:02:52 <merijn> [exa]: I don't know ishar. I mostly played Aardwolf which was a *heavily* (to the point of unrecognisability) modified ROM 2.4
2020-11-21 19:03:14 <[exa]> tomsmeding: Uniaika: worry not, I'm 33 and I have no idea whether there's any correlation between age and knowledge of MUDs :D
2020-11-21 19:03:16 <merijn> It's still up (or was a year ago), but I got kicked out of the clan :(
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2020-11-21 19:03:27 <[exa]> o noes
2020-11-21 19:03:27 <Uniaika> [exa]: :D
2020-11-21 19:03:39 <merijn> [exa]: I'm 34, so that's about the tail end of the MUD era in terms of age :p
2020-11-21 19:04:07 × berberman quits (~berberman@unaffiliated/berberman) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2020-11-21 19:04:30 hackage candid 0.1 - Candid integration https://hackage.haskell.org/package/candid-0.1 (JoachimBreitner)
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2020-11-21 19:07:13 <[exa]> merijn: like, my mud carreer peaked at like 16--18
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