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2020-10-10 21:09:52 <crestfallen> hi what would be the quickest way to put (!>) to use? http://ix.io/2AkS
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2020-10-10 21:10:27 <crestfallen> it's the same as >=> I believe. I forget if I ever got it to work..
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2020-10-10 21:16:19 <crestfallen> a poor place to start reviewing haskell again?
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2020-10-10 21:17:46 <Squarism> Warning, maybe flawed question. Say I have a class instance : instance MyClass a b. If I want to express that there is an instance for all parameterized types instead of b, how would one do that?
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2020-10-10 21:18:49 <Squarism> incomprehensible question?
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2020-10-10 21:22:22 <clmg> I'm running archlinux. I have a lot of `haskell-` packages installed via pacman already. But when I run, e.g., `stack install hakyll`, it starts downloading a lot of packages. I want to use stack to get multiple versions of haskell, but I don't want packages installed both via pacman and via stack.
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2020-10-10 21:26:17 <maerwald> clmg: what's the question?
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2020-10-10 21:26:40 <dsal> Squarism: A little. What do you mean "for all parameterized types"?
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2020-10-10 21:28:06 <phadej> probably something like MyClass a (f b)
2020-10-10 21:28:24 <clmg> maerwald: how do I figure out why I have `haskell-` packages installed via pacman, when I'm already using stack?
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2020-10-10 21:29:48 <maerwald> clmg: because you installed them
2020-10-10 21:29:48 <clmg> Pacman says they are installed because they're required by stack. But shouldn't stack download them itself? Why does stack rely on pacman sometimes and other times not?
2020-10-10 21:30:17 <dsal> stack shouldn't require much of anything.
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2020-10-10 21:31:11 <maerwald> clmg: don't install stack via pacman
2020-10-10 21:31:13 <yushyin> download the static build binary from the stack website and you won't need the haskell- packages ...
2020-10-10 21:31:16 <clmg> dsal: exactly. so why when I run `pacman -Qi haskell-mustache` does it say: `required by: stack`
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2020-10-10 21:31:42 <yushyin> of course the pacman stack will depend on some haskell- packages on arch linux
2020-10-10 21:32:15 <clmg> So I should `-R stack` and curl `get.haskellstack.org`
2020-10-10 21:32:17 <clmg> right?
2020-10-10 21:32:29 <maerwald> just download the binary
2020-10-10 21:32:41 <maerwald> the install script is terrible, it invokes sudo I believe
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2020-10-10 21:33:06 <maerwald> https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/releases/tag/v2.3.3
2020-10-10 21:33:37 <clmg> Ah I see (from arch wiki Haskell page): "Alternatively, Stack can be installed through stack-staticAUR package. It provides statically linked binaries, thereby avoiding dozens of haskell-* dependencies."
2020-10-10 21:33:52 <maerwald> don't do that either
2020-10-10 21:34:21 <maerwald> then you'll have stack in two places when I tries to auto-upgrade itself I think
2020-10-10 21:34:32 <clmg> hmmm what's wrong with stack-static? that way I can keep it up to date via AUR
2020-10-10 21:34:39 <MarcelineVQ> If I was gonna install stack via pacman I'd be by getting stack-bin from the AUR, but just getting the bin and putting in in ~/.local/bin is the most direct method by far
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2020-10-10 21:35:13 <maerwald> clmg: stack handles updating itself
2020-10-10 21:35:26 <clmg> ah ok
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2020-10-10 21:35:42 <maerwald> then you'll come back and ask why it didn't work and then we have to solve PATH issues again
2020-10-10 21:35:52 <Squarism> dsal, The "GDeliver" instance works well if I instruct the result to be a fully applied paramterized type. But If I I try to say it produces "Step b" as in the recursiveDeliver function i get the compile error at the bottom: https://paste.ofcode.org/6hQCnXKNmVNGkWE32D7Dhx
2020-10-10 21:35:59 <yushyin> maerwald is a fan of those
2020-10-10 21:36:03 <maerwald> lol
2020-10-10 21:36:11 maerwald shoots himself
2020-10-10 21:36:35 <yushyin> nooo we need you, or rather the mac users need you!
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2020-10-10 21:37:36 <MarcelineVQ> clmg: with that in mind don't forget to add ~/.local/bin to your PATH if that's where you put stack. By default that's where it places its upgraded self so that's the best spot
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2020-10-10 21:39:42 <clmg> Will stack install ghc into my home directory by default? I don't want it in root.
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2020-10-10 21:40:20 <maerwald> sure, it will download as many GHCs at it wants
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