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2020-10-30 18:19:40 hackage uniqueness-periods-vector-examples 0.14.1.0 - Usage examples for the uniqueness-periods-vector series of packages https://hackage.haskell.org/package/uniqueness-periods-vector-examples-0.14.1.0 (OleksandrZhabenko)
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2020-10-30 19:10:29 <joel135> What are the most important haskell libraries to know?
2020-10-30 19:11:25 <maerwald> unix
2020-10-30 19:11:43 <yushyin> base?
2020-10-30 19:13:03 <geekosaur> mtl?
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2020-10-30 19:14:59 <monsterchrom> What kind of question is that?
2020-10-30 19:15:30 <monsterchrom> If it's for a job interview tomorrow, it's already too late.
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2020-10-30 19:15:43 <joel135> I don't know if it was a good question.
2020-10-30 19:16:11 <monsterchrom> It is a poor question. Only exam crammers would need to know.
2020-10-30 19:16:15 <maerwald> It's something you'd say on a dating app if you matched with a haskeller... so to get their attention
2020-10-30 19:16:43 <dsal> joel135: The most important haskell libraries to know are the ones that you use the most when building code to do the thing you care about the most.
2020-10-30 19:16:57 <monsterchrom> Yeah, that.
2020-10-30 19:17:00 <joel135> I get that tautology.
2020-10-30 19:17:26 <maerwald> the standad lib base isn't that great, but you'll have to use it anyway
2020-10-30 19:17:39 <monsterchrom> The people I know are the people known to everyone who knows everyone I know.
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2020-10-30 19:19:15 <dsal> I like sqlite-simple. I use it a bunch. And optparse-applicative, though I'm open to trying some new ones.
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2020-10-30 19:20:09 hackage phonetic-languages-vector 0.1.0.0 - A generalization of the functionality of the uniqueness-periods-vector package. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/phonetic-languages-vector-0.1.0.0 (OleksandrZhabenko)
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2020-10-30 19:21:09 hackage polysemy-kvstore-jsonfile 0.1.0.0 - Run a KVStore as a single json file in polysemy. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/polysemy-kvstore-jsonfile-0.1.0.0 (locallycompact)
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2020-10-30 19:21:39 <dsal> I'm seeing more polysemy stuff. Still not used it, and the last news I read about it made it seem like a hoax.
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2020-10-30 19:21:58 <maerwald> it's slow
2020-10-30 19:22:45 <maerwald> just use IO
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2020-10-30 19:23:02 <dsal> Yeah, there was initially magic about how it erased all the overhead at compile time and made extremely efficient code and then later... that didn't happen.
2020-10-30 19:23:42 <maerwald> even if it did trigger the right optimistions, it's a fragile gamble, hence the eff approach from alexi
2020-10-30 19:24:22 <maerwald> but I don't even know if we will see that any time soon either
2020-10-30 19:25:05 <monsterchrom> That triggered the GHC proposal to add first-class continuations.
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2020-10-30 19:29:08 <dsal> joel135: Can you expand on the nature of your question a bit?
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2020-10-30 19:30:01 <dsal> My favorite "this library makes things way easier in Haskell than other languages" are STM, async, lens, megaparsec, etc...
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2020-10-30 19:31:00 <dsal> The amazonka stuff is pretty good. And conduit.
2020-10-30 19:31:48 <joel135> I have known about haskell for a long time, and have during this time learned a lot about the lambda calculus, but the haskell libraries are still as foreign to me as they were at the beginning.
2020-10-30 19:31:52 <maerwald> conduit is an example of an over-engineered API imo
2020-10-30 19:33:10 <maerwald> streamly seems much more idiomatic haskell, but it's a bit less polished
2020-10-30 19:33:34 <maerwald> and a lot faster
2020-10-30 19:34:06 <dsal> I wasn't sure about conduit... It's served me pretty well, but yeah, I've not looked hard for something else.
2020-10-30 19:34:09 <merijn> I'd argue that streamly is both much more complex and much more over-engineered than conduit >.>
2020-10-30 19:34:18 <sm[m]> joel135: a good start is to get familiar with what's in base
2020-10-30 19:34:26 <dsal> I don't have experience with alternatives to conduit.
2020-10-30 19:34:39 <merijn> streamly's API is super complex and the use of MonadBase/MonadBaseControl is terrible, because those typeclasses are terrible
2020-10-30 19:35:24 <joel135> I am tring out some posix functions right now; maybe it can be good to read through base at some level of detail later unless that's too big of a task.
2020-10-30 19:36:05 <dsal> joel135: It takes me some effort to study things for the sake of studying them. I have to put a need between myself and my learning goals most of the time. I've got a lot of pragmatic Haskell code for things I do.
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