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2020-09-27 17:16:25 <geekosaur> well, you can determine it for a file descriptor with its wrapper for fstat()
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2020-09-27 17:19:47 <sm[m]> maerwald, I wonder was it relevant ? Have you been hit by a ghc-8.10.2-on-windows bug ? If so maybe use ghc-8.8.2 ?
2020-09-27 17:20:40 <[exa]> sounds like patching mmap. :]
2020-09-27 17:21:23 <sm[m]> or ghc-8.8.4, not sure
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2020-09-27 17:56:32 <maerwald> sm[m]: yes, I think it's a 8.10.2 bug
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2020-09-27 18:13:24 <maerwald> I'm wondering if it's actually GHC or chocolatey being broken
2020-09-27 18:13:29 <maerwald> I'm thinkin the latter
2020-09-27 18:13:41 <maerwald> (otherwise... why would stack work)
2020-09-27 18:14:17 <phadej> 8.10.2 is broken
2020-09-27 18:14:23 <phadej> it has hardcoded paths
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2020-09-27 18:14:57 <phadej> (not sure if that's the reason to the reason it doesn't work for you)
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2020-09-27 18:19:02 <maerwald> I'm not sure github actions is much of an improvement over travis. I've definitely wasted more time on it.
2020-09-27 18:19:19 <dead10cc> is a monad a type class?
2020-09-27 18:19:36 <ski> no, `Monad' is a type class
2020-09-27 18:20:06 <phadej> maerwald: It's not an improvement. as in, it's not /strictly/ better. It's better at some stuff, worse at other
2020-09-27 18:20:07 <ski> a monad is a type that is a (lawful) instance of the `Monad' type class
2020-09-27 18:20:45 <maerwald> phadej: I'm just glad I don't have github->travis redirection problems... that's all I noticed
2020-09-27 18:20:51 <dead10cc> well then that simplifies things, thanks
2020-09-27 18:21:13 <phadej> maerwald: redirection problems?
2020-09-27 18:21:26 <maerwald> yeah, constantly needing to re-login at travis
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2020-09-27 18:21:59 <phadej> hmm, I haven't noticed that. (as in, I don't remember when I logged into travis last time explicitly)
2020-09-27 18:22:10 <phadej> maybe your browser is more strict about privacy (not a bad thing)
2020-09-27 18:22:26 <maerwald> it's full of half-working extensions, yeah
2020-09-27 18:22:28 <sm[m]> I find GitHub way better, if only because it covers all three platforms, and is more integrated with my repo. Maybe Travis got better
2020-09-27 18:22:29 <koz_> I've used Github Actions. It's annoying, but I finally found how to make a config that works in all the ways I care about.
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2020-09-27 18:22:43 <maerwald> sm[m]: does travis not cover windows?
2020-09-27 18:22:49 <phadej> it does
2020-09-27 18:23:00 <phadej> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/reference/windows/
2020-09-27 18:23:04 <sm[m]> mac ?
2020-09-27 18:23:10 <maerwald> mac is supported
2020-09-27 18:23:17 <maerwald> I build ghcup binaries on mac
2020-09-27 18:23:17 <phadej> and also arm target, fwiw
2020-09-27 18:23:28 <maerwald> *mac travis
2020-09-27 18:23:40 <maerwald> (and the linking is good)
2020-09-27 18:23:49 <maerwald> (on ghc gitlab, it isn't)
2020-09-27 18:24:00 <sm[m]> alrighty.. are they as uniform as on GitHub ?
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2020-09-27 18:24:17 <phadej> as uniform as travis.yml allows, I guess :)
2020-09-27 18:24:58 <phadej> GitHub CI has a benefit that you can have multiple jobs, which are completely unrelated
2020-09-27 18:25:09 <phadej> if travis had that, it would be strictly better, IMO.
2020-09-27 18:25:21 <maerwald> the actions have this vibe of badly written nmp modules though
2020-09-27 18:25:27 <phadej> (and also gave more cpu time to OSS for free, but I cannot blame anyone for not doing that)
2020-09-27 18:25:27 <maerwald> *npm
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2020-09-27 18:25:54 <phadej> maerwald: I don't use premade actions, they take out control where I most need it
2020-09-27 18:25:55 <maerwald> like, import some action, figure out it works 60% of the time
2020-09-27 18:26:02 <maerwald> a little like ansible maybe
2020-09-27 18:27:24 <maerwald> and when I want to look at what an action does... it's 5k LOC js code
2020-09-27 18:27:37 <phadej> yes, the API is horrible.
2020-09-27 18:27:41 <phadej> JS code glued with YAML
2020-09-27 18:28:22 <maerwald> they should have picked haskell (and if it's just to keep most programmers out :p
2020-09-27 18:28:46 <koz_> phadej: That was the worst part.
2020-09-27 18:28:50 <koz_> Configuration gore is worst gore.
2020-09-27 18:29:07 <phadej> then they would needed to seriously think about API against which actions are programmed with
2020-09-27 18:29:11 <phadej> it's not trivial problem
2020-09-27 18:29:42 <phadej> with JS, kind easier (you don't need to think upfront, even though it might be a good idea)
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