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2020-09-30 12:57:58 hackage servant-serf 0.0.1 - Generates a servant API module https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-serf-0.0.1 (goolord)
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2020-09-30 13:41:16 <motte> hi, i'm new to haskell and i would like to create a simple web server with basic access authentication. which library would best suit my needs?
2020-09-30 13:41:35 <Uniaika> not Servant, whatever you might be told
2020-09-30 13:41:43 <Uniaika> try Scotty and/or Yesod
2020-09-30 13:42:01 <motte> huh, that's what i was looking at currently. what's wrong with it?
2020-09-30 13:42:05 <Taneb> For this case I'd go scotty
2020-09-30 13:42:06 <Uniaika> ah, if you want to *create* a web *server*, you might have to go at a lower level with Warp/WAI
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2020-09-30 13:42:27 <Taneb> servant is great if you want to have a large REST API. On the small, it's kind of got a lot of wasted power
2020-09-30 13:42:32 <Uniaika> motte: you don't have the level/understanding of type-level programming to understand what you'll need to do in order to use it
2020-09-30 13:42:37 <opqdonut> for a simple web server / backend, I'd just go with WAI & Warp directly
2020-09-30 13:42:42 <Uniaika> just don't hurt yourself with Servant yet
2020-09-30 13:43:05 <motte> the library should be as simple/minimal as possible, scalability isn't important etc.
2020-09-30 13:43:20 <Uniaika> go with WAI and Warp then
2020-09-30 13:43:23 <Uniaika> Godspeed!
2020-09-30 13:43:37 <motte> alright, will check it out, thankss
2020-09-30 13:43:48 <hc> lol, you don't need to understand any more type theory for servant than you do for getting along with warp/wai
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2020-09-30 13:44:21 <hc> I mean, servant is already implemented; there are good howtos on how to use it
2020-09-30 13:44:51 <motte> oh, also, i plan to keep the credentials in a /etc/shadow -like text file. anything for that?
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2020-09-30 13:45:15 <Uniaika> hc: I did not mention type theory, I mentionned type-level programming - which is widely different
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2020-09-30 13:45:29 <Uniaika> at least type theory doesn't bring type error messages that are scary as shit
2020-09-30 13:45:53 <Uniaika> motte: why don't you hash+salt them in a SQL row?
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2020-09-30 13:48:24 <motte> Uniaika: it's a pretty simple application, i don't think i need a database. just 1 configuration file for authorization and something for authentication
2020-09-30 13:48:47 <Uniaika> well you can use a SQLite database if you don't want to bother with a DBMS :)
2020-09-30 13:49:03 <Uniaika> I don't know if the /etc/shadow algorithm has an implementation in Haskell
2020-09-30 13:49:04 <motte> i pretty much already have the whole thing implemented using mqtt, but then i realized i sometimes need to send responses as well
2020-09-30 13:49:11 <Uniaika> that being said, it can be a fantastic side-project :P
2020-09-30 13:49:40 <motte> in mqtt's case i let the broker deal with authentication
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