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2020-10-12 15:49:44 → berberman joins (~berberman@unaffiliated/berberman)
2020-10-12 15:50:13 <phadej> `neil` is tuned for Neils liking, haskell-ci maintainer occasionally listens for others ;)
2020-10-12 15:50:21 <merijn> phadej: I want to avoid forking/writing something from scratch as much as possible as I don't want to have to reinvent all your and hvr's work :p
2020-10-12 15:50:41 <phadej> merijn: then find out how to help herbert with his ppa
2020-10-12 15:50:56 <phadej> merijn: as far as I understood, packaging GHC is "not fun"
2020-10-12 15:51:08 <merijn> yeah
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2020-10-12 15:51:49 <merijn> Unfortunately that's the sorta thing it's hard to make time to improve until someone starts paying me to write Haskell...
2020-10-12 15:51:56 <phadej> in particular, hadrian is very very much not fun
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2020-10-12 15:52:22 <merijn> I'd love to spend more time on GHC/cabal-install/etc. :\
2020-10-12 15:52:24 <phadej> it works for development like a charm, but in restricted build environments...
2020-10-12 15:53:04 <phadej> no-one pays me (nor herbert afaik) to work on e.g. haskell-ci
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2020-10-12 15:53:18 <phadej> so, nothing new.
2020-10-12 15:53:57 <merijn> I know, but I meant that I can sneak in some Haskell and minor PRs during work/free time, but getting familiar enough to do more comprehensive things is something I don't have time for atm
2020-10-12 15:54:04 <tomjaguarpaw> It's interesting you say hadrian isn't fun. I thought it was supposed to be the new, "fun" way.
2020-10-12 15:54:14 <phadej> tomjaguarpaw: it's fun for development
2020-10-12 15:54:21 <merijn> tomjaguarpaw: "development" and "packaging" are very different beasts :)
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2020-10-12 15:55:33 <tomjaguarpaw> Interesting. Is the makefile version better for packaging?
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2020-10-12 15:56:03 <phadej> it's not better, but its dependencies are easier to manage
2020-10-12 15:56:17 <phadej> e.g. hadrian have to be built itself, so you need to package that too
2020-10-12 15:56:29 <phadej> and hadrians dependencies don't come in ghc source distribution
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2020-10-12 15:58:36 <phadej> in fact, source distribution for 8.10.2 doesn't seem to contain hadrian at all
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2020-10-12 15:59:14 <phadej> I guess that [hadrian for packaging] is work which is not even started
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2020-10-12 16:07:28 hackage clckwrks-plugin-media 0.6.17 - media plugin for clckwrks https://hackage.haskell.org/package/clckwrks-plugin-media-0.6.17 (JeremyShaw)
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2020-10-12 16:14:49 <siraben> Is there a way to do pattern matching on raw bytestrings?
2020-10-12 16:14:50 <siraben> ViewPatterns?
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2020-10-12 16:16:51 <merijn> siraben: What's wrong with guards?
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2020-10-12 16:19:47 <phadej> foo "bar" = ... works for bytestrings with OverloadedStrings
2020-10-12 16:20:02 <phadej> but if you want to extract individual bytes then it's indeed trickier
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