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2022-11-07 21:04:20 <jabuxas> geekosaur: how is your setup on mate? do you use mate's panel?
2022-11-07 21:09:57 <jabuxas> i was trying to set it up but I have literally no idea why the windows on my 2nd monitor are tiled that way: https://0x0.st/oEg1.png
2022-11-07 21:10:23 <jabuxas> I also don't know why the 1st panel is invisible but 2nd isn't
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2022-11-07 21:18:59 <geekosaur> I use mate-panel, yes. both panels on primary screen, one top, one bottom
2022-11-07 21:21:08 <geekosaur> also I use arandr to arrange monitors but that's because my laptop has a bum displayport on it and mate's display manager tries to access it and hangs at 100% cpu
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2022-11-07 21:22:16 <jabuxas> i'm not sure what's causing the thing at the second monitor either. if I move the windows out of tiling they work just fine, 100% of the screen, the only thing that doesn't work is tiling. i have no idea why.
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2022-11-07 21:23:58 <jabuxas> uhmmm this is weird
2022-11-07 21:24:37 <jabuxas> https://0x0.st/oEg4.png it.. works now?
2022-11-07 21:25:22 <jabuxas> the only thing i did was delete first panel and create another one (that wasn't invisible)
2022-11-07 21:28:25 <geekosaur> odd
2022-11-07 21:28:50 <geekosaur> sounds as if the struts got miscalculated for some reason
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2022-11-07 21:29:16 <jabuxas> well the good thing is that xfce-panel can show workspaces. that's the only reason i really used xmobar :)
2022-11-07 21:29:43 <jabuxas> now I just need to tweak things to my liking..
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2022-11-07 21:31:36 <geekosaur> there might be a better mpd client for it as well
2022-11-07 21:32:14 <jabuxas> nevermind
2022-11-07 21:32:16 <geekosaur> xfce4-mpc-plugin appears to exist
2022-11-07 21:32:22 <geekosaur> huh?
2022-11-07 21:32:25 <jabuxas> if i log out and log back in, the panels are transparent again
2022-11-07 21:32:46 <geekosaur> o.O
2022-11-07 21:33:16 <jabuxas> xmonad knows they exist - it even respects its borders
2022-11-07 21:34:03 <geekosaur> then that's an issue with the panels themselves. panels are self-managing, and drawing is always up to the app not the wm
2022-11-07 21:34:31 <geekosaur> anything odd with the panel plugins by any chance?
2022-11-07 21:35:31 <jabuxas> https://0x0.st/oEgg.png
2022-11-07 21:35:37 <jabuxas> not really
2022-11-07 21:40:48 <jabuxas> If I use xfce4-panel-profiles to reapply the same config I have now, they appear.
2022-11-07 21:45:00 <geekosaur> you have ther weirdest problems…
2022-11-07 21:45:13 <jabuxas> :'(
2022-11-07 21:46:54 <geekosaur> https://imgur.com/FQZDc5zl.png fwiw
2022-11-07 21:48:42 <jabuxas> i will log out
2022-11-07 21:48:44 <jabuxas> and pray
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2022-11-07 21:51:24 <jabuxas> ok
2022-11-07 21:51:26 <jabuxas> so
2022-11-07 21:51:28 <jabuxas> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/194
2022-11-07 21:51:30 <jabuxas> looks like
2022-11-07 21:51:32 <jabuxas> i'm not alone.
2022-11-07 21:54:24 <jabuxas> oh you even commented on the issue
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2022-11-07 22:00:40 <jabuxas> ok so sleep 4 works
2022-11-07 22:04:39 <geekosaur> I'd forgotten about that one
2022-11-07 22:08:19 <geekosaur> I wonder if adding some kind of wm startup indicator would help (mate uses https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Config/Mate.hs#L82-L102)
2022-11-07 22:08:48 <geekosaur> would need adjusting for xfce4, amd I have no idea what to send it to or what exactly to send it
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2022-11-07 22:28:27 <jabuxas> ok at last, lightdm working, xmonad also "working", and panels too
2022-11-07 22:31:23 <jabuxas> is it hard to implement xmonad-log-applet?
2022-11-07 22:34:03 <geekosaur> it's something of a PITA; first you need to usually build it for your DE because it's rarely packaged and when it is it's only one of the variants (but check, maybe yours packages the XFCE4 variant)
2022-11-07 22:34:15 <geekosaur> then you need to set up to send it dbus messages
2022-11-07 22:35:15 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L128-L130 https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L290-L338 is mine
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2022-11-07 22:35:26 <geekosaur> note that I use fairly custom logging
2022-11-07 22:37:03 <jabuxas> first i need to debug why
2022-11-07 22:37:06 <jabuxas> configure: error: Package requirements (libxfce4panel-1.0 >= 4.6.0) were not met:
2022-11-07 22:37:08 <jabuxas> Package 'libxfce4panel-1.0', required by 'virtual:world', not found
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2022-11-07 22:39:05 <jabuxas> and I do have xfce4-dev-tools installed
2022-11-07 22:41:09 <jabuxas> is my libxfce4panel too updated?
2022-11-07 22:42:08 <geekosaur> looks like xfce4-dev-tools is the wrong package? "The Xfce development tools are a collection of tools and macros for Xfce developers and people that want to build Xfce from Git"
2022-11-07 22:43:02 <geekosaur> hm, apt-cache shows me libxfce4panel-2.0-dev
2022-11-07 22:45:22 <geekosaur> where did you get xmonad-log-applet? the original upstream is dead and out of date on both mate and xfce4; my current upstream is up to date on both
2022-11-07 22:45:59 <geekosaur> https://github.com/jgoerzen/xmonad-log-applet.git
2022-11-07 22:46:22 <jabuxas> oh yeah, i got it from a alexkay guy
2022-11-07 22:47:12 <jabuxas> hmm now it worked
2022-11-07 22:47:13 <jabuxas> thank you
2022-11-07 22:47:20 <jabuxas> i guess it wasn't detecting before
2022-11-07 22:47:52 <geekosaur> it found 2.0 instead of 1.0 and failed, probably. (api changes)
2022-11-07 22:48:37 <geekosaur> the 1.0/2.0 is actually part of the name, that's how breaking api changes are usually indicated
2022-11-07 22:48:45 <jabuxas> ok now dbus time
2022-11-07 22:50:04 <geekosaur> libdbus-1-dev
2022-11-07 22:50:40 <geekosaur> xmonad-log-applet itself is written in C++ because it's a pain to hook a Haskell plugin into a C++ panel
2022-11-07 22:51:25 <jabuxas> the problem is putting dbus inside my config
2022-11-07 22:51:41 <jabuxas> would this config work? https://github.com/alexkay/xmonad-log-applet/blob/master/xmonad.hs
2022-11-07 22:51:44 <jabuxas> to base it of off
2022-11-07 22:52:22 <geekosaur> yes; it's a simplified version of the stuff I pointed you to in my config
2022-11-07 22:52:35 <geekosaur> which is mostly cribbed from that
2022-11-07 22:52:52 <geekosaur> although I added a few additional pango markup functions
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2022-11-07 22:57:52 <jabuxas> Could not load module ‘DBus’

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