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2022-09-29 11:28:22 <thyriaen_> I have a certain application ( kitty started with nnn in a wm class 'NNN' ) with a keybinding 'v' - i would like that pressing 'v' again when it is already running to hide it ( not closing the terminal - it should still run offscreen ) and then by pressing v again to show it again - how do i do that ?
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2022-09-29 11:33:06 <[Leary]> thyriaen_: X.U.NamedScratchpad
2022-09-29 11:36:39 <thyriaen_> [Leary], as far as i can tell scratchpad bundles all the things i want together - how can i hide and show a window within that scratchpad ?
2022-09-29 12:05:36 <byorgey> thyriaen_: not sure what you mean, it sounds to me like NamedScratchpad does exactly what you want. Each window is a separate "scratchpad" (scratchpad is kind of a strange name for it). I have a whole bunch of individual NamedScratchpads, like "M-a s" shows and hides a floating terminal window, "M-a g" shows and hides a floating GHCi window, etc.
2022-09-29 12:06:08 <thyriaen_> byorgey, ah maybe i misunderstood what a scratchpad does
2022-09-29 12:06:11 <thyriaen_> perfect thanks
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2022-09-29 16:28:30 EnchanterTim is now known as Linux
2022-09-29 16:29:17 <Linux> Question, does anyone know if there is a way to have selected text in Xmonad shortcut that sends the text to a pastebin and returns a url in the paste buffer/bin etc. Or is this outside the scope of xmonad?
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2022-09-29 16:29:50 <geekosaur> probably outside the scope
2022-09-29 16:30:10 <geekosaur> you don't want your window manager locked up waiting for a response from a pastebin
2022-09-29 16:30:19 <Linux> Oh?
2022-09-29 16:30:21 <Linux> Hmm.
2022-09-29 16:32:06 <geekosaur> the handleEventHook doesn't help you much because it only responds to X11 messages, not to e.g. activity on a socket
2022-09-29 16:34:50 <geekosaur> additionally, pasting anything larger than a key *from* xmonad is actually a complex operation because there isn't actually a paste buffer. it's more like a message on a corkboard with little phone number tear-offs, and the paster and pastee have to call and negotiate (in this case, a paste format)
2022-09-29 16:35:13 <Linux> What about a script that runs and does this ?
2022-09-29 16:35:20 <Linux> Bind to a key
2022-09-29 16:35:28 <Linux> that will hold up the wm?
2022-09-29 16:35:33 <geekosaur> no
2022-09-29 16:36:26 <geekosaur> but the script has to be more difficult than you think because of that protocol negotiation: the script has to stick around waiting for "calls" until something else seizes the selection
2022-09-29 16:37:03 <geekosaur> cut buffers worked the way most people think selections work. PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD don't
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2022-09-29 17:54:16 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/758 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/758
2022-09-29 17:54:17 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib alexandersokolow https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/758 * v0.17.1-20-g9e55ae91: expose more messages in MouseResizableTile layout (11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/9e55ae9184a5
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2022-09-29 23:10:10 <thyriaen> myManageHooks is a ComposeAll [ and then a list of things for example , className =? "Nemo" --> floatingNemo ] -- I would like to add a NamedScratchpad - do i just include that in the list as one position ? like , namedScratchpadManageHook scratchpads , ?
2022-09-29 23:14:18 <geekosaur[m]> Yes
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2022-09-29 23:17:10 <thyriaen> okey there is only one issue
2022-09-29 23:17:21 <thyriaen> if i press the button for my scratchpad nothing happens :p
2022-09-29 23:22:58 <thyriaen> ok i fixed it
2022-09-29 23:23:08 <thyriaen> now my polybar displays the hidden workspace though
2022-09-29 23:23:17 <thyriaen> so it is not infact really hidden is it ? :P
2022-09-29 23:29:01 <thyriaen> easily fixed tho
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2022-09-30 01:19:37 <Linux> use the noTaskbar
2022-09-30 01:20:29 <geekosaur> that doesn't hide the NSP workspace though
2022-09-30 01:20:50 <Linux> Oh you can hide the NSP workspace?
2022-09-30 01:20:52 <Linux> How?
2022-09-30 01:22:20 <Linux> I see
2022-09-30 01:22:43 <Linux> manageHook = manageDocks <+> myManageHook <+> namedScratchpadManageHook scratchpads <+> manageHook def <- I have like so
2022-09-30 01:22:52 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar-PP.html#v:filterOutWsPP
2022-09-30 01:23:10 <geekosaur> but that's for xmobar, not for polybar
2022-09-30 01:23:30 <geekosaur> if it uses EWMH to get workspace information then you have to do something trickier
2022-09-30 01:23:35 <Linux> I see
2022-09-30 01:23:45 <Linux> I'd like to hid NSP on the KDE plasma panel I use
2022-09-30 01:23:51 <Linux> Any idea about that?
2022-09-30 01:24:11 <Linux> I also used dynamic log from years ago, and probably need to update to statusbar the one you linked
2022-09-30 01:24:11 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-WorkspaceCompare.html#v:filterOutWs
2022-09-30 01:24:48 <geekosaur> the docs tell you how to use it to filter NSP out of the EWMH workspaces, so polybar and plasma-panel won't see it
2022-09-30 01:24:55 <Linux> Ok I will try it
2022-09-30 01:25:05 <Linux> I don't know the language of haskell
2022-09-30 01:25:07 <Linux> :)
2022-09-30 01:25:26 <geekosaur> I'm not going to be up a whole lot longer though
2022-09-30 01:25:35 <geekosaur> maybe someone else can help
2022-09-30 01:25:37 <Linux> I'm not in a rush, I'll try it round, see what I can do
2022-09-30 01:25:48 <Linux> I will come back later when you guys are awake and have time
2022-09-30 01:25:49 <geekosaur> (my sleep monitor is already yelling at me because I'm not in bed yet)

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