Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
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| 2022-09-22 15:23:18 | <liskin> | Just read on HN that https://github.com/riverwm/river is a Wayland compositor that has a separate compositor and WM processes |
| 2022-09-22 15:23:33 | <liskin> | useful inspiration for later |
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| 2022-09-22 19:05:40 | <floweynt[m]> | even running xmonadpropread doesnt read out the _XMONAD_LOG_0 value |
| 2022-09-22 19:06:02 | <floweynt[m]> | https://hastebin.com/axehaxiyac.hs |
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| 2022-09-22 19:23:19 | <geekosaur> | XMonadPropRead reads _XMONAD_LOG, you have to use XPropertyLog, I think |
| 2022-09-22 19:23:27 | geekosaur | not an xmobar expert |
| 2022-09-22 19:24:42 | <jao> | https://codeberg.org/xmobar/xmobar/src/branch/master/doc/plugins.org#headline-60 |
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| 2022-09-22 22:00:12 | <QNX> | You know what, I'm just gonna say it. |
| 2022-09-22 22:00:19 | <QNX> | KDE developers are just terrible people. |
| 2022-09-22 22:00:41 | <QNX> | There is no discussion with them about anything. Elitist ahole who think they have the gods gift to desktop software |
| 2022-09-22 22:01:00 | <floweynt[m]> | <geekosaur> "XMonadPropRead reads _XMONAD_LOG..." <- ` Run XPropertyLog "_XMONAD_LOG_0"` is what i have |
| 2022-09-22 22:01:12 | <QNX> | There is nothing you can phrase in any diplomatic manner |
| 2022-09-22 22:01:20 | <QNX> | About why some changes were made that are breaking |
| 2022-09-22 22:01:39 | <QNX> | Anyway. |
| 2022-09-22 22:02:08 | <QNX> | It's time to start making own software |
| 2022-09-22 22:03:17 | <geekosaur> | this is one of the reasons people run xmonad, i3, … |
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| 2022-09-22 22:04:47 | <QNX> | Well, it's not that. |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:03 | <QNX> | It's that ... I just got back from kde devel and raised some issues about genuine things |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:13 | <geekosaur> | floweynt[m], I don't see anything wrong with your config and I can't see your smobar config (and I don't know xmobar well enough anyway) but things seem to be okay at least in your xmonad.hs |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:17 | <QNX> | The general mentality is ... they don't.... I just... |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:40 | <QNX> | I'm not one to talk about people badly, but it's just too much ... elitist toxicity in the circle |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:51 | <geekosaur> | ask liskin about the gnome devs sometime |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:55 | <QNX> | KDE does things that break things for Xmonad people and they don't care. |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:57 | <QNX> | :( |
| 2022-09-22 22:05:59 | <QNX> | That makes me sad. |
| 2022-09-22 22:06:13 | <geekosaur> | (I haven't tried to work with them in a decade, they clearly have not improved) |
| 2022-09-22 22:06:22 | <QNX> | They have not. Sadly. |
| 2022-09-22 22:06:31 | <QNX> | Oh I need a Big Xmonad HUG! |
| 2022-09-22 22:06:39 | <floweynt[m]> | geekosaur: xprop -root doesnt show _XMONAD_LOG_{N} |
| 2022-09-22 22:07:00 | <QNX> | I need a fly down terminal like yakuake |
| 2022-09-22 22:07:00 | <geekosaur> | I am saddened by KDE though. I used to contribute to it, and even did a Solaris port back in the KDE 2 days |
| 2022-09-22 22:07:14 | <geekosaur> | we ran it in the main undergrad cluster |
| 2022-09-22 22:07:30 | <QNX> | I need to be able to quickly access a terminal no matter which workspace I'm on, floated/hovered, on/of toggle with either mouse edge screen touch up top, with a delay |
| 2022-09-22 22:07:44 | <QNX> | I used to too, circa 2.5.10 |
| 2022-09-22 22:07:47 | <QNX> | 3.x |
| 2022-09-22 22:08:02 | <QNX> | I was an old debian maint and used to contribute a lot circa 20020-2006 |
| 2022-09-22 22:08:10 | <QNX> | 2002 |
| 2022-09-22 22:08:52 | <QNX> | But that's the beauty of FOSS |
| 2022-09-22 22:09:03 | <QNX> | Find a community you like, can stand, like minded people, contribute, make friensd |
| 2022-09-22 22:09:15 | <QNX> | Linus Trovadldes maybe crass but he's got a point |
| 2022-09-22 22:09:22 | <QNX> | Find what you like and contribute there. |
| 2022-09-22 22:09:26 | <QNX> | I like Xmonad |
| 2022-09-22 22:09:42 | <QNX> | Even if I was an asshole sometimes, people were still nice to me here and understanding. |
| 2022-09-22 22:09:54 | <QNX> | People with mental problems like mine have hard time finding a place to fit in. |
| 2022-09-22 22:10:10 | <QNX> | But anyway, glad to be here. |
| 2022-09-22 22:10:30 | <QNX> | Gladly I stuck with ubuntu LTS so I don't have to update plasma-framework patches too often. |
| 2022-09-22 22:10:37 | <QNX> | Not something you can do with a rolling distro. |
| 2022-09-22 22:11:23 | <geekosaur> | I have a terminal scratchpad. one could conceivably do that with X.H.ScreenCorners |
| 2022-09-22 22:11:28 | <QNX> | I wanted to try out a few rolling distros, but my workflow/desktop is heavily KDE app oriented, dont' use kde desktop, Xmonad instad, but I use plasma panels for easy peasy app/taskman/systray |
| 2022-09-22 22:11:37 | <QNX> | Hmm |
| 2022-09-22 22:11:39 | <QNX> | Interesting. |
| 2022-09-22 22:11:40 | <geekosaur> | I use MATE fwiw |
| 2022-09-22 22:12:14 | <geekosaur> | plays pretty well once you reconfigure the menu applet to let go of the windows key |
| 2022-09-22 22:12:28 | <QNX> | GTK based? |
| 2022-09-22 22:12:37 | <QNX> | I have a mental problem. I hate GTK dialog design. |
| 2022-09-22 22:12:43 | <geekosaur> | yes. more or less it's a supported fork of gnome 2 |
| 2022-09-22 22:12:48 | <QNX> | Especially the GTK2/3 file open/save dialog boxes. Horrendous |
| 2022-09-22 22:13:05 | <QNX> | Who came up with such a terrible nonstandard design for especially those two |
| 2022-09-22 22:13:15 | <QNX> | And you always have to open/save files, and that is too annoying for me to use |
| 2022-09-22 22:13:30 | <QNX> | Gimp I have to use, and that's terrible with that file/save/open dialogs, Horrible design. |
| 2022-09-22 22:13:36 | <QNX> | Just unintuitive. |
| 2022-09-22 22:13:44 | <QNX> | Anyway, i'm sounding like a old grumpy man. |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:06 | <geekosaur> | wait until you are one 🙂 |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:10 | <QNX> | 42 man. |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:15 | <QNX> | Getting there! |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:22 | <geekosaur> | 58 |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:28 | <QNX> | Whoah. Damn. |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:29 | <QNX> | Sir. |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:34 | <QNX> | Respect. |
| 2022-09-22 22:15:53 | <QNX> | I thought you were my age, man. haha |
| 2022-09-22 22:16:59 | <QNX> | XHSC seems cool. |
| 2022-09-22 22:17:23 | <QNX> | But what action might I launch which would show the terminal floated on top of the already existing window in a workspace |
| 2022-09-22 22:17:47 | <QNX> | Don't want to switch ws, nothing else, no app switching nothing, just float a terminal on top like this one: https://apps.kde.org/yakuake/ |
| 2022-09-22 22:18:38 | <geekosaur> | like I said, I use a scratchpad. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L77-L80 (keybind https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L213) |
| 2022-09-22 22:19:09 | <QNX> | Interesting. |
| 2022-09-22 22:19:22 | <QNX> | What is this scratchpad thing? |
| 2022-09-22 22:19:35 | <QNX> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-NamedScratchpad.html |
| 2022-09-22 22:19:37 | <QNX> | I see. |
| 2022-09-22 22:19:52 | <geekosaur> | https://alternativeto.net/software/guake/?platform=linux |
| 2022-09-22 22:20:14 | <geekosaur> | or search for "quake-like terminal linux" |
| 2022-09-22 22:20:23 | <QNX> | Gotcha |
| 2022-09-22 22:21:18 | <QNX> | Scratchpad seems pretty awesome |
| 2022-09-22 22:22:29 | <geekosaur> | it summons (or lau7nches if needed) a window on the current workspace on command, then banishes it to NSP on repeat of that command so you can pop stuff up/down on the current workspace. I have quite a few defined, as you can see |
| 2022-09-22 22:22:48 | <geekosaur> | although much of that is experimentation and in particular I may take all the crawl consoles back out |
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