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| 2022-09-14 05:42:04 | <Solid> | liskin: already know when you're here tomorrow? |
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| 2022-09-14 06:28:30 | <Quelklef> | hello hello |
| 2022-09-14 06:29:10 | <Quelklef> | so I've been on XMonad for a while and uh, wow it's so cool |
| 2022-09-14 06:29:25 | <Quelklef> | i just love the software-as-a-library/software-as-a-framework paradigm |
| 2022-09-14 06:29:45 | <Quelklef> | anyway, I came from i3 and there is exactly one thing i really miss, which is the ability to arbitrarily nest layouts |
| 2022-09-14 06:30:27 | <Quelklef> | in i3 it was natural and common to, for instance, have a stacked layout which contains a split layout which contains a split layout |
| 2022-09-14 06:31:52 | <Quelklef> | by this description it sounds like what I want is just "sublayouts", which is implemented by XMonad.Layout.Sublayouts |
| 2022-09-14 06:32:21 | <Quelklef> | but this is not quite right -- iirc, a sublayout is unable to "escape' its innermost layout, whereas in i3 you can move a window up and down the tree as you please |
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| 2022-09-14 06:33:01 | <Quelklef> | for instance, if I have a stacked layout containing a split layout, it's desirable to take a window from the split layout and move it into the stack |
| 2022-09-14 06:33:41 | <Quelklef> | I was hoping that someone had implemented an i3 clone in XMonad (my dream), but it seems that's not the case |
| 2022-09-14 06:33:59 | <Quelklef> | I'm wondering what other directions I may have at my disposal to allow such a flexible config |
| 2022-09-14 06:34:46 | <[Leary]> | There's a BSP(WM) clone if that's similar enough. I never used i3 so I'm not sure from your description. |
| 2022-09-14 06:35:14 | <Quelklef> | let me take a look |
| 2022-09-14 06:36:04 | <Quelklef> | oh, is this XMonad.Layout.BinarySpacePartition? |
| 2022-09-14 06:36:14 | <Quelklef> | I'm actually using that already as one of my layouts :-) |
| 2022-09-14 06:36:23 | <Quelklef> | it's definitely good stuff, but not quite as powerful as I'm looking for |
| 2022-09-14 06:45:37 | <[Leary]> | Well, I don't think there's much for it. You can adjust to what's possible with the layouts already written, or you can learn Haskell and write what you want for yourself. The former might be better than it sounds---most of the other tiling WMs use layouts that are powerful but overly manual as a result, while xmonad's tend towards the more automated. |
| 2022-09-14 06:47:38 | <Quelklef> | I actually know Haskell, but from what I can tell working with the XMonad API thus far emulating all of i3 would be a rather tall task |
| 2022-09-14 06:48:23 | <Quelklef> | I honestly think I prefer the manual-but-powerful over the automated for WMs, which is unfortunate for me because I prefer XMonad otherwise :thinking: |
| 2022-09-14 06:48:47 | <Quelklef> | anyway, sounds like I gotta suck it up and put the effort in or learn to live with slightly lower QoL:^) thanks |
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| 2022-09-14 08:46:17 | <liskin> | Solid: "(landing at the airport at 10 am)" |
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| 2022-09-14 08:47:04 | <liskin> | haven't made any other plans yet and quite busy today so probably will improvise tomorrow |
| 2022-09-14 08:51:51 | <Solid> | ah okay, must've forgotten that |
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| 2022-09-14 09:30:12 | <thyriaen_> | Howdy friends, I am spawning polybar on xmonad startup and the alsa module does not load - however when i restart xmonad later it does work fine so i suspect the startup happens to early and it needs to wait a bit - is this a known problem and how do i best deal with it ? |
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| 2022-09-14 09:40:19 | <thyriaen> | Howdy friends - I am starting polybar on startup in my xmonad.hs - The alsa module does not work correctly on startup but doesn work if i restart xmonad. I am thinking a before starting polybar might fix it - is this a known problem and what would be the best way of dealing with it ? |
| 2022-09-14 09:58:00 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/755 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/755 |
| 2022-09-14 09:58:00 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Maynard https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/755 * v0.17.1-13-gbbcac714: XMonad.WorkspaceLayouts: init (41 minutes ago, 5 files, 652+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/bbcac714355c |
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| 2022-09-14 12:30:09 | <liskin> | Solid: looks like my wife does have a plan involving a beer and lunch at some brewery (didn't say which) near hbf |
| 2022-09-14 12:30:17 | <liskin> | around noon I think |
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| 2022-09-14 13:50:53 | <thyriaen> | I am starting polybar on startup in my xmonad.hs - The alsa module does not work correctly on startup but doesn work if i restart xmonad. I am thinking a before starting polybar might fix it - is this a known problem and what would be the best way of dealing with it ? |
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| 2022-09-14 14:22:28 | <geekosaur> | your message is a little confusing, it does or doesn't work on restart? |
| 2022-09-14 14:23:14 | <geekosaur> | in any case I would wonder if it needs somnething to be started first. dbus and pulseaudio (or modern replacement whose name I don't recall off the top of my head) are likely culprits |
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| 2022-09-14 14:35:46 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur - my internet went out :: i think you mean pipewire - but i think alsa should work without any of those. It works on restart but not with the first startup |
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| 2022-09-14 14:49:07 | <geekosaur> | alsa itself will but it may not be initialized until pipewire or etc. is running |
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