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| 2022-07-11 13:55:46 | <geekosaur> | anything that works with a WindowSet for the …P variants, any X action for the regular ones |
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| 2022-07-11 15:20:25 | <valarMorghulis[m> | How to set a keyboarding to move focus to a window in next group? |
| 2022-07-11 15:20:26 | <valarMorghulis[m> | That is `window W.focusDown` for groups |
| 2022-07-11 15:24:50 | <valarMorghulis[m> | s/keyboarding/keybinding/ |
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| 2022-07-11 15:36:52 | <geekosaur> | uh, which groups? we have several different notions of "group" |
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| 2022-07-11 15:44:52 | <valarMorghulis[m> | <geekosaur> "uh, which groups? we have..." <- Group as in when we group together a bunch of windows as sublayout |
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| 2022-07-11 15:46:42 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Like this image |
| 2022-07-11 15:48:47 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Jump btw window in left and the one window in right, not all 3 windows just 2 of em each from one group |
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| 2022-07-11 16:04:20 | <geekosaur[m]> | That actually makes it worse because that could be ComboP instead of Layout.Group or similar |
| 2022-07-11 16:04:33 | <geekosaur[m]> | Sorry had a phone call |
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| 2022-07-11 16:09:18 | <geekosaur> | can you show your config so I can see which setup you're using? as I said, there are a number of ways to group windows |
| 2022-07-11 16:09:45 | <geekosaur> | Combo, ComboP, LayoutCombinators, Layout.Groups, others |
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| 2022-07-11 16:10:34 | <geekosaur> | there's another one that presumably isn't what your're doing because a group is defined by predicate and you can't e.g. change className of a window |
| 2022-07-11 16:11:52 | <geekosaur> | actually I suppose that means not ComboP either since that's also by predicate, but it could still be Combo |
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| 2022-07-11 16:14:47 | <geekosaur> | if it is Layout.Groups then you probably want https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-Groups-Helpers.html#v:moveToGroupDown |
| 2022-07-11 16:14:59 | <geekosaur> | but that won't work if it's Combo |
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| 2022-07-11 16:29:49 | <valarMorghulis[m> | <geekosaur> "can you show your config so I..." <- I'm setting my layout like this... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/4eaacaa1cf57466f3ef98c3401a18663e695ae76) |
| 2022-07-11 16:30:38 | <geekosaur> | subLayout, hm. |
| 2022-07-11 16:31:58 | <geekosaur> | pushWindow <direction>, looks like |
| 2022-07-11 16:32:00 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Just it didn't work |
| 2022-07-11 16:32:01 | <valarMorghulis[m> | <geekosaur> "if it is Layout.Groups then..." <- I tried to use focusGroupDown |
| 2022-07-11 16:32:15 | <geekosaur> | won;'t work with sublayouts, only with X.L.Groups |
| 2022-07-11 16:32:26 | <geekosaur> | this is why I asked which kind of groups you were using |
| 2022-07-11 16:32:36 | <geekosaur> | there's a *bunch* of different ways to group windows |
| 2022-07-11 16:32:50 | <geekosaur> | you want pushWindow here |
| 2022-07-11 16:33:13 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: Oo I see |
| 2022-07-11 16:33:48 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Can you show an example config or some documentation, I'm kinda new to this |
| 2022-07-11 16:36:06 | <geekosaur> | you would bind a key to `sendMessage (pushWindow D)` or similar (adjust direction according to what you're doing) |
| 2022-07-11 16:36:40 | <geekosaur> | the same way you have keys bound to `sendMessage (pullGroup D)` and such |
| 2022-07-11 16:37:00 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Okay I'll try that out |
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| 2022-07-11 16:45:26 | <valarMorghulis[m> | <geekosaur> "you would bind a key to `..." <- When I check the official documentation both pull group and push group are having the same definition |
| 2022-07-11 16:45:27 | <valarMorghulis[m> | What's the difference between both? |
| 2022-07-11 16:45:43 | valarMorghulis[m | sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/16fbf6d894f5e99822cd6f74c540bc7eba4c8c9d |
| 2022-07-11 16:46:27 | <geekosaur> | looks to me like they have `c` and `o` swapped? |
| 2022-07-11 16:47:44 | <geekosaur> | pushWindow, not pushGroup? |
| 2022-07-11 16:49:30 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: I was talking about the description, not the function definition |
| 2022-07-11 16:50:47 | <geekosaur> | the description says the difference between the two, it's just duplicated out of laziness (programmer laziness, not Haskell's) |
| 2022-07-11 16:51:04 | <geekosaur> | "inheriting the position of the current window (pull) or the other window (push)" |
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| 2022-07-11 16:52:09 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: Ok I see |
| 2022-07-11 16:54:03 | valarMorghulis[m | sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/cd282d0f360939c5fddb7583fe0177acc01f32e7 |
| 2022-07-11 17:06:43 | <geekosaur> | I think this is the third time… to move a window between them you use pushWindow instead of pushGroup |
| 2022-07-11 17:18:46 | <valarMorghulis[m> | <geekosaur> "I think this is the third time..." <- Ok after the third time I think you understood my question wrong, I want to jump btw groups just like Alt-tab jumps between Windows I need to jump between the first window of each group, push and pull group combains Windows together right? Not shift focus and thats what I want |
| 2022-07-11 17:19:16 | <geekosaur> | okaym I misunderstood, sorry |
| 2022-07-11 17:21:54 | <geekosaur> | I think you just use WindowNavigation for that: sendMessage (Go D) |
| 2022-07-11 17:25:46 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: ` , ("M-C-<Tab>", sendMessage (Go D))` this doesn't seem to work |
| 2022-07-11 17:26:05 | <geekosaur> | I don't think there's a way to go directly to the next group, you have to go through all the windows in that direction |
| 2022-07-11 17:26:29 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Thanks |
| 2022-07-11 17:26:30 | <valarMorghulis[m> | I get it |
| 2022-07-11 17:27:16 | <geekosaur> | I'm looking at that layout stack. It's a bit weird |
| 2022-07-11 17:27:33 | <geekosaur> | you have both `noBorders` and `smartBorders` next to each other |
| 2022-07-11 17:28:29 | <geekosaur> | you have `avoidStruts` inside several other layouts, which will cause bars to malfunction because you can't avoid a strut when you're not on the outside of the stack |
| 2022-07-11 17:29:13 | <geekosaur> | I'm also wondering how `addTabs` fits in with that whole thing. it's outside of the `subLayout` but it may still cause weirdness |
| 2022-07-11 17:29:23 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: I've my boarder set to 0 since I'm using top bar, thats why I didnt bother changing it ig I'll change it now |
| 2022-07-11 17:29:54 | <geekosaur> | if you set border to 0 then I don't think either of those modifiers will help you |
| 2022-07-11 17:31:20 | <geekosaur> | don't think you can move between tabs via keyboard either |
| 2022-07-11 17:35:14 | <valarMorghulis[m> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-SubLayouts.html in `sublayout` example it's show like that, ig that's why I tried to use it |
| 2022-07-11 17:35:56 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: Well I can move around with tabs currently |
| 2022-07-11 17:36:16 | <geekosaur> | right, but subTabbed exists for a specific reason because tabs combine weirdly with groups |
| 2022-07-11 17:36:43 | <geekosaur> | but I think that's about tabs inside the groups, whereas your `addTabs` is outside |
| 2022-07-11 17:37:32 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: SubTabbed has a weird glitch thats why I didnt use it |
| 2022-07-11 17:37:34 | <valarMorghulis[m> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/343 |
| 2022-07-11 17:38:00 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: Ooh |
| 2022-07-11 17:38:34 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Imma change the boarders anyways, I knew something was wrong there but since I didn't use it I was too lazy to remove em |
| 2022-07-11 17:39:07 | <geekosaur> | right, but that glitch will happen regardless of how you do it, it's a flaw in message handling |
| 2022-07-11 17:39:20 | <geekosaur> | whoich we're not sure how to fix without breaking other things |
| 2022-07-11 17:39:33 | <geekosaur> | I think that's the second or third ticket about the same core issue |
| 2022-07-11 17:39:46 | <valarMorghulis[m> | But using it with add tabs doesn't cause that glitch |
| 2022-07-11 17:40:10 | <geekosaur> | right, because those are outside so it always receives the messages |
| 2022-07-11 17:40:23 | <geekosaur> | it's stuff inside addTabs that won't reliably receive Hide messages |
| 2022-07-11 17:40:54 | <valarMorghulis[m> | geekosaur: Ooh I see |
| 2022-07-11 17:41:41 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Btw (this)[https://github.com/lladeebll/dotFiles/tree/master/dotfiles/.config/xmonad] is my xmonad config, if anyone in here got extra time, please go through this, I'm just a beginner there might be a lotta problems with this |
| 2022-07-11 17:41:45 | <geekosaur> | or vice versa, subLayout won't tell all its sublayouts to hide so tabs will stick around untimely |
| 2022-07-11 17:42:33 | <geekosaur> | which is what I meant about addTabs being (correctly) outside of subLayout instead of inside it where it breaks badly |
| 2022-07-11 17:44:13 | <valarMorghulis[m> | <geekosaur> "you have `avoidStruts` inside..." <- So `avoidStruts` need to be out side everything? |
| 2022-07-11 17:45:36 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2022-07-11 17:45:48 | <geekosaur> | since the struts are always on the very edge of the screen |
| 2022-07-11 17:46:28 | <geekosaur> | `avoidStruts` will happily try to reserve space somewhere else, but it won't match where the strut-owning program is drawing in that case |
| 2022-07-11 17:47:05 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Ok I see, I've removed `noBoarders` `smartBoards` and added `avoidStruts` outside all layouts |
| 2022-07-11 17:47:30 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Ig these should solve all the problems with my layout |
| 2022-07-11 17:47:48 | <geekosaur> | hopefully |
| 2022-07-11 17:48:20 | <valarMorghulis[m> | Cool, thanks |
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