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2022-03-08 18:31:25 <geekosaur> you might try it with the nightly resolver, which has 0.17.0
2022-03-08 18:32:14 <geekosaur> (stackage hasn't yet released an LTS with xmonad 0.17)
2022-03-08 18:32:21 <iqubic> No, I'm certainly using 0.17.0.9.
2022-03-08 18:32:34 <iqubic> which xmonad gives ~/.local/bin/xmonad
2022-03-08 18:32:43 <iqubic> and xmonad --version gives 0.17.0.9
2022-03-08 18:33:07 <geekosaur> that's not what your stack.yaml says. is it actually being used?
2022-03-08 18:33:17 <iqubic> I'm not sure.
2022-03-08 18:33:31 <geekosaur> you are using resolver 18.27 and do not have extra-packages pointing to git releases
2022-03-08 18:33:49 <geekosaur> erm, extra-deps
2022-03-08 18:34:15 <iqubic> Yes, but I have the full sources for xmonad on my system.
2022-03-08 18:34:45 <geekosaur> stack won't be using them without an extra-deps stamnza pointing to them
2022-03-08 18:34:55 <iqubic> I cloned xmonad and xmonad-contrib in to my ~/.config/xmonad directory and then ran "stack init"
2022-03-08 18:34:57 <geekosaur> unless you are installing by some means other than stack
2022-03-08 18:35:36 <geekosaur> mm, maybe. I admit I don't know stack that well, but my understanding is you need extra-deps for stack to actually use those checkouts
2022-03-08 18:35:40 <iqubic> No. After cloning the sources, then running stack init, I then ran stack install.
2022-03-08 18:36:02 <geekosaur> on the other hand, you apparently have the right version running. so the question is why isn;t it seeing your config
2022-03-08 18:36:23 <geekosaur> can you doublecheck you really don't have ~/.xmonad ?
2022-03-08 18:36:44 <geekosaur> also see if `echo $XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR` says something
2022-03-08 18:36:49 <iqubic> I really don't have a ~/.xmonad directory.
2022-03-08 18:37:49 <geekosaur> (also I need someone who understands stack better than I do…)
2022-03-08 18:38:32 <iqubic> Should I try reinstalling xmonad, using a method you understand better?
2022-03-08 18:39:01 <geekosaur> probably not since cmonad --version is returning the right thing; it's far more likely that I'm confused than that something is wrong
2022-03-08 18:39:15 <geekosaur> does `xmonad --recompile` do anything useful?
2022-03-08 18:39:35 <iqubic> It succeeds with no errors
2022-03-08 18:40:03 <iqubic> I don't seem to have any $XMONAD_CONFIG value set.
2022-03-08 18:40:26 <iqubic> echo $XMONAD_CONFIG is returning a blank line.
2022-03-08 18:40:40 <geekosaur> it's XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR
2022-03-08 18:41:04 <iqubic> Also not set for me.
2022-03-08 18:41:28 <geekosaur> odd
2022-03-08 18:41:40 <geekosaur> just for grins and giggles, try `xmonad --restart`
2022-03-08 18:42:43 <iqubic> That's still not using my config
2022-03-08 18:42:50 <geekosaur> :(
2022-03-08 18:44:52 <iqubic> I had this working the other day. The only thing that changed was that I deleted my binaries and swtiched from a version installed with cabal, to one installed with stack
2022-03-08 18:45:32 <iqubic> Shall I delete the stack binary and switch back to cabal?
2022-03-08 18:45:45 <geekosaur> I don;t see how that would help
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2022-03-08 18:46:11 <geekosaur> the stack binary is working well enough to find and recompile your config, it should be working well enough to find and use your config
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2022-03-08 18:51:37 <geekosaur> hm. can you check that something didn't reconfigure your display manager to run a different xmonad?
2022-03-08 18:51:55 <iqubic> I'll try checking that, yeah.
2022-03-08 18:54:56 <iqubic> I just deleted the stack binaries, and reinstalled using cabal. Now it works properly.
2022-03-08 18:56:34 <iqubic> With that issue solved, I bid you farewell.
2022-03-08 18:56:39 <iqubic> exit
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2022-03-08 18:58:46 <geekosaur> odd
2022-03-08 18:59:18 <geekosaur> I can't see why stack would have done that, unless your config waspointing at a cabal-installed one instead and it's looking in the wrong place
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2022-03-08 18:59:30 <geekosaur> cabalwould be ~/.cabal/bin/xmonad
2022-03-08 18:59:33 <geekosaur> oh
2022-03-08 18:59:36 <geekosaur> sigh
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2022-03-08 21:11:03 <iqubic> What's the difference between the doSink and doLower manage hooks?
2022-03-08 21:18:40 <geekosaur> "sink"means moving form the floating layer to the tiled layer. "lower" is what it says on the tin
2022-03-08 21:19:01 <geekosaur> (sink as the opposite of float)
2022-03-08 21:22:23 <geekosaur> thta is,lower puts a window below all other windows
2022-03-08 21:23:47 <iqubic> Ah. I see.
2022-03-08 21:24:09 <iqubic> Do floating windows that have focus automatically become raised?
2022-03-08 21:24:57 <geekosaur> yes
2022-03-08 21:26:07 <iqubic> Is there a way to automatically lower all tiling windows?
2022-03-08 21:28:50 <geekosaur> tiled windows are always below floating windows. otherwise their z-order is determined by the layout and there's no way to override it exscept to use a different layout
2022-03-08 21:57:30 <iqubic> How I get the className and titleName properties for a given window?
2022-03-08 21:58:06 <geekosaur> they are the first and second strings reported for WM_CLASS
2022-03-08 21:58:28 <geekosaur> or there'sa script in contrib iirc which outputs it in manageHook form
2022-03-08 21:58:49 <iqubic> And how do I get that value? Is there a command line tool I can use?
2022-03-08 21:58:52 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/scripts/window-properties.sh
2022-03-08 21:59:17 <geekosaur> or just: xprop WM_CLASS, then click on the window
2022-03-08 21:59:29 <iqubic> Thanks.
2022-03-08 22:00:57 <iqubic> Now, is there a guide to xmobar configuration? I have my XMobarPP set up properly in xmonad.hs. I want to configure font choice, font size, and which other widgets I use.
2022-03-08 22:01:28 <iqubic> I'm just gonna do the default xmobarrc plain text configuration style
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