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2021-12-31 01:45:54 <geekosaur> liskin, the above suggests to me something a bit worrying. are we running the logHook (and presumably X.O.windows) more or less continuously during a window move/resize?
2021-12-31 01:46:19 <geekosaur> (note "freezes up after about three seconds")
2021-12-31 01:47:18 <geekosaur> there's a flag for a move or resize active in XState, perhaps we should avoid unnecessary calls to X.O.windows while it's set. or is that unsound for some reason?
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2021-12-31 01:48:11 <geekosaur> perhaps run it once at the start if/when we float the window initially, then once at the end
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2021-12-31 01:58:03 <geekosaur> made an issue for it, so it doesn't get lost
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2021-12-31 04:50:57 <AIM[m]> <geekosaur> "(xmonad 0.17.0 has a new..." <- I use the status bar feature of Xmonad 0.17 makes it better
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2021-12-31 05:24:43 <noex> same. i'm really happy with that feature.
2021-12-31 05:31:47 <AIM[m]> How do I make Xmobar read from hs file instead of the rc file?
2021-12-31 07:05:38 <noex> not sure, i'm still using the rc
2021-12-31 07:06:14 <AIM[m]> Same
2021-12-31 07:06:36 <AIM[m]> Iwanna use hs file sinceI think that'd allow more configs
2021-12-31 07:06:43 <AIM[m]> And customization
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2021-12-31 08:55:42 <liskin> geekosaur: I think it's there to fix a bug
2021-12-31 08:56:01 <liskin> I vaguely remember seeing something like that in the git history
2021-12-31 08:56:45 <liskin> I'll check again once I reboot into Linux again :-)
2021-12-31 09:09:15 <liskin> Or I can just look it up from my phone
2021-12-31 09:09:29 <liskin> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/4565e2c90ef522d23d3afc2cf95b9f0b423d8de4
2021-12-31 09:10:45 <liskin> We could update the StackSet without refreshing, possibly, this would avoid the extra windows/logHook invocations. A bit of a hack though
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2021-12-31 10:25:24 <geekosaur> that's sad
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2021-12-31 12:13:38 <vesuzma> Hello! I created two ArchLinux bug trackers to upgrade xmonad to 0.17.0. I provided the patch to PKGBUILD. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/73189 and https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/73190. Who should I contact to make this happen?
2021-12-31 12:20:57 <geekosaur> couldn't tell you. but you should be aware that arch seems to be desupporting much of the haskell ecosystem because they made such a mess of it
2021-12-31 12:21:24 <geekosaur> resulting in many people ignoring the arch and aur packages and using ghcup instead
2021-12-31 12:22:17 <Solid> vesuzma: it explicitly tells you not to report bugs in case of outdated packages ;)
2021-12-31 12:22:28 <Solid> perhaps try the mailing list or contact the maintainer for these packages directly
2021-12-31 12:22:44 <geekosaur> this is somewhat less than ideal because of packages like hledger and pandoc (and to a lesser extent xmonad) because users don't want to have to deal with building them themselves, but at this point arch would have to jettison their packages and start over anyway
2021-12-31 12:26:07 liskin just uses the pandoc binary from Github releases :-/
2021-12-31 12:26:26 <liskin> (because Haskell in Debian is just as dead)
2021-12-31 12:27:14 <geekosaur> yeh, still thinking about offering to be a maintainer
2021-12-31 12:27:39 <geekosaur> (I assume I'd have to take on a fair amount of stuff beyond xmonad anyway due to dependencies)
2021-12-31 12:28:11 <geekosaur> sadly I kinda need to get a better handle on my sensory overload issues before I can offer to take on that kind of responsibility
2021-12-31 12:31:34 <vesuzma> I'm a noob here. I successfully subscribed to arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org. I tried to send an email but it got rejected because of "This list is for ArchLinux Development and is not open for public comment". Not sure how I can proceed :). Should I contact the maintainer (felixonmars) directly?
2021-12-31 12:32:21 <geekosaur> that's how I would start
2021-12-31 12:32:42 <vesuzma> cool, thanks!
2021-12-31 12:32:57 <geekosaur> that said, I'mnot an Arch user so I don't really know anything about their conventions
2021-12-31 12:33:26 <Solid> vesuzma: I don't think felixonmars is the maintainer, they just revbumped it recently
2021-12-31 12:33:55 <Solid> The package description ( https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/xmonad/ ) gives a certain Levente Polyak as the current maintainer
2021-12-31 12:34:25 <geekosaur> right, the way Arch does things, updating any dependency means revbumping all dependents
2021-12-31 12:36:44 <vesuzma> oh, I missed that, I swear yesterday I read Felix as a maintainer, thank you!
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2021-12-31 12:41:27 <AIM[m]> They not yet reached 0.17 :')
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2021-12-31 15:16:45 <geekosaur> weee, updates time
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