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2021-11-01 13:10:16 <L29Ah> and on the lower side it's as cold as noisy your fan is
2021-11-01 13:10:17 <liskin> it's normally limited to 80, because I haven't bothered with any of the throttled hacks, I like my laptop cool
2021-11-01 13:10:36 <liskin> L29Ah: 41 without a fan
2021-11-01 13:10:47 L29Ah sometimes wishes to have dock plugs for liquid cooling
2021-11-01 13:10:49 <Solid> mine almost melts through my desk when compiling :)
2021-11-01 13:10:51 <liskin> it does kick in around 43 or something
2021-11-01 13:11:18 <L29Ah> liskin: nice, what's the device?
2021-11-01 13:11:33 <L29Ah> and ambient temperature
2021-11-01 13:11:33 <liskin> but for some strange reason the CPU started switching to a 65C limit lately
2021-11-01 13:11:51 <liskin> L29Ah: T25
2021-11-01 13:11:57 <liskin> vanilla, no mods
2021-11-01 13:12:08 <liskin> ambient temp around 21 I think
2021-11-01 13:12:59 <liskin> it's already out of warranty so I may eventually need to replace it with a 51nb something
2021-11-01 13:13:09 <liskin> or just get used to the "modern" keyboard :-/
2021-11-01 13:13:49 <L29Ah> i'm pissed with the firmware quality of 51nb, but still it seems to be the only decent option on the market these days
2021-11-01 13:14:12 <liskin> yeah, that's what I'm worried about
2021-11-01 13:14:33 <liskin> as I understand it, even the T480/25 frankenpad has issues with not all keys working as they should
2021-11-01 13:14:49 <L29Ah> 16:11:51]<liskin> L29Ah: T25
2021-11-01 13:14:49 <L29Ah> can you please show the steady output of https://github.com/l29ah/intel-powermon/ at max load?
2021-11-01 13:15:07 <liskin> so I'm kind of hoping they release something for the 30th anniversary, but at this point nobody cares any more :-/
2021-11-01 13:15:30 <liskin> L29Ah: I have a meeting now but remind me later today
2021-11-01 13:15:35 <L29Ah> alright
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2021-11-01 13:50:28 <liskin> L29Ah: https://gist.github.com/1f8e901a82bd89b48c5beafa2c64c06d - building xmonad-contrib with -j, temp slowly raised up to the 80 ceiling during the first minute or so
2021-11-01 13:51:00 <liskin> I can try to raise the limit to 95 and see what happens
2021-11-01 13:51:32 <L29Ah> this sounds like your CPU is throttled into oblivion
2021-11-01 13:52:09 <liskin> well it's a U, of course it's throttled into oblivion :-)
2021-11-01 13:52:10 <L29Ah> but still the cooling system is somewhat better than X201's
2021-11-01 13:52:35 <liskin> but I'm not getting messages about it being throttled, which is a bit weird
2021-11-01 13:52:50 <liskin> I used to get those in dmesg before, but they stopped once I undervolted
2021-11-01 13:53:08 <liskin> so there are probably two different throttling mechanisms
2021-11-01 13:53:29 <L29Ah> 8% better
2021-11-01 13:53:48 <L29Ah> liskin: yeah by trottling i mean absolute frequency cap
2021-11-01 13:54:03 <L29Ah> not the situational cap due to overheating
2021-11-01 13:54:12 <liskin> L29Ah: oh, right
2021-11-01 13:55:16 <L29Ah> can be illustrated by `sysbench cpu run --threads=9 --time=5`
2021-11-01 13:55:22 <L29Ah> 42233 here
2021-11-01 13:55:25 <liskin> hm, those numbers look almost the same with the limit raised to 95
2021-11-01 13:55:48 <L29Ah> but does actual temperature rise to 95?
2021-11-01 13:55:58 <liskin> not really, barely gets to 80
2021-11-01 13:56:03 <liskin> I'll need to run stack in a loop
2021-11-01 13:56:25 <liskin> or power the nvidia up to stress the cooling system a bit
2021-11-01 13:58:55 <liskin> https://gist.github.com/0e84c03f0dea1fa066395ed54b7b7769 - ghc -j + primusrun glxgears
2021-11-01 13:59:09 <liskin> 3.5k fan rpm, 83C tops
2021-11-01 13:59:57 <liskin> I think I might need to write to another MSR to override the wattage cap, not just the thermal cap
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2021-11-01 14:07:53 <liskin> hm, it's weird, I raised the wattage caps, but it still draws under 20 watts, and when I check with turbostat, all 4 cores are at their turbo frequencies all the time
2021-11-01 14:08:18 <liskin> maybe ghc is too lazy :-)
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2021-11-01 14:16:22 <FOSSHuman[m]> https://github.com/AdnanHodzic/auto-cpufreq
2021-11-01 14:17:20 <FOSSHuman[m]> This can greatly extend the battery life of a laptop, it automatically adjusts the CPU frequency
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2021-11-01 14:31:40 <L29Ah> FOSSHuman[m]: i'm skeptical of the utility of this program
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2021-11-01 14:32:19 <L29Ah> as it assumes that CPU is the sole power consumer, and you don't need the results of CPU work
2021-11-01 14:33:03 <L29Ah> and/or additional waiting for the result is acceptable
2021-11-01 14:35:00 <L29Ah> sure you can increase computations per joule if you lower the frequency somewhat, but it becomes interestingly nonlinear when the power consumption of other system components, notably LCD backlight, is brought into the equation
2021-11-01 14:36:57 <L29Ah> and advanced techniques like race-to-idle bring even more confusion
2021-11-01 14:37:27 L29Ah is disappointed by the lack of benchmarks in README
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2021-11-01 14:47:50 <liskin> L29Ah: I just checked the picom slowness, and I had to revert both the commits you mentioned to get to a reasonable performance
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2021-11-01 14:50:45 <L29Ah> liskin: try noting that in the issue, as it seems like the maintainer have dismissed my concerns
2021-11-01 14:50:57 <L29Ah> fwiw i have no clue how it works, if it's picom or xmonad or other apps' windows to blame, i just bisected it
2021-11-01 14:52:29 <liskin> I think I have an idea what's going on
2021-11-01 14:52:53 <liskin> in https://github.com/yshui/picom/issues/381 I see no answer from the maintainer
2021-11-01 14:56:02 <liskin> L29Ah: without the free_paint_glx change reverted, glx_find_fbconfig is called more than 10 times on every xmonad layout resize
2021-11-01 14:56:58 <liskin> dunno what that function does exactly, but it feels like it should be called once, not a hundred times every time something changes
2021-11-01 14:59:06 <liskin> the other commit just makes glx_find_fbconfig slower
2021-11-01 15:04:52 <liskin> I think glx_find_fbconfig just needs some memoization/caching and it will be good
2021-11-01 15:05:10 <liskin> the range of its inputs is quite small
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2021-11-01 23:08:02 <vrs> debian testing has... 0.15, apparently
2021-11-01 23:08:18 <geekosaur> right, they haven't updated yet
2021-11-01 23:08:33 <geekosaur> (there was no 0.16 xmonad, only xmonad-contrib)
2021-11-01 23:10:32 <geekosaur> sid hasn't updated either, from the looks of it
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2021-11-01 23:23:26 <L29Ah> Gentoo has 0.17, yay i can now get off the git
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