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2023-09-19 02:52:55 × rekahsoft quits (~rekahsoft@bras-base-orllon1122w-grc-30-70-51-230-102.dsl.bell.ca) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
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2023-09-19 05:41:04 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> What happened to lambdabot?
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2023-09-19 07:40:51 <Solid> lambdabot is still here and doing fine
2023-09-19 07:40:56 <Solid> but it was never a bridge to matrix
2023-09-19 07:41:39 <Solid> AFAIK what happened is that the Libera people asked matrix.org to discontinue the unconditional bridging of all Libera.chat IRC channels
2023-09-19 07:41:55 <Solid> There's a new system now, I think; haven't looked into it too deeply
2023-09-19 08:20:44 <liskin> Solid: what new system?
2023-09-19 08:25:34 <Solid> liskin: https://www.matrix.org/blog/2023/07/make-sure-libera-bridge-keeps-working/
2023-09-19 08:25:45 <Solid> apparently there is now a concept of a "plumbed room"
2023-09-19 08:26:00 <liskin> Solid: there's always been that concept actually
2023-09-19 08:26:13 <liskin> #xmonad:matrix.org is a plumbed room
2023-09-19 08:27:00 <Solid> huh, curious
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2023-09-19 08:28:03 <liskin> I set it up that way because it used to be a normal Matrix room that people would find in the search and then be confused why none of us is there
2023-09-19 08:28:18 <liskin> plumbing turns a normal Matrix room into a "bridged" one
2023-09-19 08:28:33 <liskin> but that no longer works because the entire matrix-libera bridge is shut down
2023-09-19 08:30:20 <liskin> hm, nheko does look a bit better than Element, yeah
2023-09-19 08:30:45 <liskin> pretty subpixel antialiased and positioned fonts of my choosing \o/
2023-09-19 08:31:08 <liskin> but it looks like a version 1.0 IRC client from the early 2000s
2023-09-19 08:31:18 <liskin> where nick colors
2023-09-19 08:31:50 <liskin> and yeah spaces work now too
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2023-09-19 09:51:57 <liskin> yeah, so, gomuks for actually chatting with people, nheko for doing stuff that gomuks can't do, and element as a fallback for the rest
2023-09-19 09:52:32 <liskin> wonderful. 5 stars for user experience, Matrix
2023-09-19 09:53:18 <liskin> now let's see if the Fediverse (Mastodon etc.) can be even worse than that :-D
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2023-09-19 15:17:52 <geekosaur> aaaand today setlocale builds unmodified with 9.8 again. I'm mystified. so is Kritzefitz. ???
2023-09-19 15:18:36 <liskin> Different snapshot of 9.8 I presume?
2023-09-19 15:18:51 <geekosaur> No changes over the past 3 weeks
2023-09-19 15:18:58 <geekosaur> still waiting on alpha4
2023-09-19 15:19:54 <geekosaur> and I'm sure I'm doing the same thing because I put it all in a cabal.project
2023-09-19 15:21:02 <geekosaur> only things I can figure are either 9.8 has a nondeterministic bug (seems really unlikely) or there's some very strange caching bug with my external drive (which also seems unlikely, except there have been a few other caching weirdnesses)
2023-09-19 15:23:28 <geekosaur> I guess I'll worry about it again if we get any reports about xmonad building with 9.8 in the wild
2023-09-19 15:32:54 <liskin> Hm, and same hsc2hs too?
2023-09-19 15:38:25 <geekosaur> shouldn't matter but yes
2023-09-19 15:38:33 <geekosaur> hsc2hs isn't involved with `deriving`
2023-09-19 15:59:54 <liskin> Yah but you mentioned having to use a different version than what ships with ghc
2023-09-19 15:59:59 <liskin> Or am I misremembering?
2023-09-19 16:01:30 <geekosaur> in both cases it's using the latest one from hackage. don't recall how to bend build-tool-depends to allow newer versions
2023-09-19 16:02:15 <geekosaur> in any case it's the same one
2023-09-19 16:04:10 <geekosaur> flushed everything and trying it again jic
2023-09-19 16:04:42 <geekosaur> and it succeeded again
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2023-09-19 23:31:03 <hightower2> hey which variable/option controls spacing between windows? not asking about border width, but about padding/spacing in between basically
2023-09-19 23:42:56 <geekosaur> you want XMonad.Layout.Spacing
2023-09-19 23:43:51 <geekosaur> spacingRaw gives you full control, there are other layout modifiers that are easier to you
2023-09-19 23:46:28 <geekosaur> the main thing to watch out for is that spacing is applied all around every window, so if you naïvely set a spacing of 10 then you'll get 20px spacing between windows because it'll be 10px from each window
2023-09-19 23:49:04 <geekosaur> and similarly between windows and the screen edges (first spacing tuple to spacingRaw is screen border)
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2023-09-20 11:16:49 <horzion> heya. i wanted to use xF86XK_AudioPlay to play and pause media on my setup, but i can only find documentation to a xmonad build named vanessa that supported it at some point and others people asking or using specific players
2023-09-20 11:19:18 <liskin> horzion: you just bind that key to "playerctl play‐pause"
2023-09-20 11:20:13 <liskin> you may need to run playerctld so that it tracks which media player it should act on
2023-09-20 11:32:40 <horzion> huh
2023-09-20 11:32:44 <horzion> thank you, will try
2023-09-20 11:37:16 <horzion> perfect
2023-09-20 11:37:18 <horzion> thank you very much
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2023-09-20 15:53:55 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-175-g000cd147: X.Prelude: Compatibility with base-4.18.0.0 (3 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/000cd147998c
2023-09-20 15:53:57 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-181-g4f6a9dea: Merge pull request #829 from slotThe/ghc/head (30 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/4f6a9deaf89c

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