Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2023-03-22 07:41:48 | <geekosaur> | make sure ~/.xmonad doesn't exist |
| 2023-03-22 07:42:10 | <geekosaur> | I've been using the XDG path for around a year without problems |
| 2023-03-22 07:43:25 | <Solid> | We even check XDG dirs first in 0.17.0+, so it should definitely work |
| 2023-03-22 07:45:04 | <geekosaur> | (it's around ~0345 here, why am I up?) |
| 2023-03-22 07:45:07 | <thyriaen> | i deleted ~/.xmonad |
| 2023-03-22 07:45:16 | <thyriaen> | and it doesn't load ~/.config/xmonad |
| 2023-03-22 07:45:30 | <thyriaen> | and then creates ~/.xmonad new and uses the default config from within |
| 2023-03-22 07:47:30 | <Solid> | can you post the output of `xmonad --version` and `xmonad --recompile` ? |
| 2023-03-22 07:52:54 | <thyriaen> | Solid, sure |
| 2023-03-22 07:53:41 | <thyriaen> | i have version 0.17.1 |
| 2023-03-22 07:55:22 | <geekosaur> | that's not quite enough. how is xmonad getting started and is it starting the correct xmonad? the path you have in a terminal may not be the one in effect when xmonad starts, so if yoy have two copies of xmonad the wrong one may be run |
| 2023-03-22 07:55:42 | <geekosaur> | more specifically, do you have /usr/bin/xmonad and what version is it? |
| 2023-03-22 07:58:01 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, i only have one xmonad, from my package manager on a fresh install |
| 2023-03-22 07:58:27 | <thyriaen> | running /usr/bin/xmonad --version gives 0.17.1 |
| 2023-03-22 07:58:40 | <thyriaen> | my output of recompile is: |
| 2023-03-22 07:59:11 | <thyriaen> | "Xmonad will use ghc to recompile because neither /home/thyriaen/.xmonad/build nor /home/thyriaen/.xmonad/stack.yaml exsists |
| 2023-03-22 07:59:15 | <thyriaen> | recompiling ( forced ) |
| 2023-03-22 07:59:21 | <thyriaen> | exited with success |
| 2023-03-22 08:00:16 | <thyriaen> | " |
| 2023-03-22 08:00:21 | geekosaur | wonders if the xdg detection stuff needs debug output |
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| 2023-03-22 08:02:04 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, does the binary has to be present in the /.config/xmonad/ folder ? |
| 2023-03-22 08:02:09 | <thyriaen> | because it isn't |
| 2023-03-22 08:02:19 | <thyriaen> | it only is in the ~/.xmonad folder |
| 2023-03-22 08:02:40 | <Solid> | no, when using XDG dirs the binary gets sent to $XDG_CACHE_HOME |
| 2023-03-22 08:02:44 | <geekosaur> | that's because it's putting oit there, which means it picked the wrong folder |
| 2023-03-22 08:03:49 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, could it be that when starting up and xmonad get's loaded at that time my xdg stuff isn't set yet so it can't find the .config folder ? |
| 2023-03-22 08:04:16 | <Solid> | Oh, nvmd, we do not prefer XDG dirs |
| 2023-03-22 08:04:32 | <Solid> | only the XMonad env vars |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:03 | <Solid> | thyriaen: it's first looking for either `xmonad.hs`, or `build` inside of ~/.xmonad |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:06 | <geekosaur> | we don't require the xdg envars although we use them if present, if I recall the code correctly |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:21 | <Solid> | yeah all those env vars have a fallback |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:28 | <Solid> | like ~/.config etc. |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:32 | <thyriaen> | ic |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:38 | <thyriaen> | but |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:42 | <thyriaen> | when i delete ~/.xmonad |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:44 | <thyriaen> | and reboot |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:47 | <thyriaen> | it get's recreated |
| 2023-03-22 08:05:54 | <thyriaen> | even thought i have an ~/.config/xmonad/xmonad.hs |
| 2023-03-22 08:06:48 | <geekosaur> | that's wrong. I could have sworn we look specifically for where xmonad.hs is, and check the xdg dir first (well, we check the xmonad envar first, then the xdg dir, then fallback to ~/.xmonad) |
| 2023-03-22 08:07:15 | <Solid> | I was thinking that as well, but we explicitly check `xmEnvDirs <|> xmDirs <|> xdgDirs` |
| 2023-03-22 08:07:23 | <Solid> | And the docs agree and weren't changed for a while |
| 2023-03-22 08:07:59 | <Solid> | but we *do* check for xmonad.hs or build explicitly |
| 2023-03-22 08:08:06 | <Solid> | not just for the presence of the directory |
| 2023-03-22 08:08:38 | <geekosaur> | right, that was the fix for random unfixed contribs creating data files explicitly in ~/.xmonad (hello prompt) |
| 2023-03-22 08:09:00 | <Solid> | thyriaen: only thing I can think of is that there is some old version of xmonad somewhere that gets used for the first recompilation step |
| 2023-03-22 08:09:55 | <thyriaen> | Solid, as I said, it is a fresh install with only one xmonad version |
| 2023-03-22 08:11:29 | <geekosaur> | just for grins and giggles: you don't happen to have $XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR set do you? |
| 2023-03-22 08:11:38 | <thyriaen> | let me check |
| 2023-03-22 08:12:07 | <thyriaen> | echo $XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR returns a empty line |
| 2023-03-22 08:15:54 | <geekosaur> | odd. I know this works because I've been using it |
| 2023-03-22 08:16:50 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, any ideas what else i can check ? |
| 2023-03-22 08:17:15 | <geekosaur> | no, I'm pretty lost at this point |
| 2023-03-22 08:17:17 | <deebo> | check yourself, before you wreck yourself |
| 2023-03-22 08:17:18 | <geekosaur> | 😞 |
| 2023-03-22 08:17:41 | <thyriaen> | maybe the launch script of my display manager |
| 2023-03-22 08:17:44 | <thyriaen> | is wrong |
| 2023-03-22 08:17:47 | <thyriaen> | where can i find that ? |
| 2023-03-22 08:18:09 | <geekosaur> | depends on the display manager but often /usr/share/xsessions |
| 2023-03-22 08:18:42 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, it just execs xmonad-start |
| 2023-03-22 08:19:25 | <geekosaur> | so now you need to find that, which I presume is a script |
| 2023-03-22 08:20:14 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, yes it is |
| 2023-03-22 08:20:20 | <thyriaen> | it is in /usr/bin/ |
| 2023-03-22 08:20:40 | <thyriaen> | it does a lot of directory stuff |
| 2023-03-22 08:20:43 | <thyriaen> | let me show you |
| 2023-03-22 08:22:16 | <geekosaur> | (btw you don't have to keep pinging me) |
| 2023-03-22 08:23:14 | <thyriaen> | i think it is a habbit |
| 2023-03-22 08:25:51 | <thyriaen> | paste.tomsmeding.com/fFNtjbVb |
| 2023-03-22 08:27:00 | <geekosaur> | yeh, that's creating ~/.xmonad and copying their idea of a default config into it |
| 2023-03-22 08:29:34 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, and xmonad-start is provided by my distribution ? |
| 2023-03-22 08:29:44 | <geekosaur> | if you change the xsession desktop file to run xmonad directly instead, things should work as they're supposed to |
| 2023-03-22 08:29:53 | <geekosaur> | yes, this came from your distro |
| 2023-03-22 08:30:04 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, so just instead of xmonad-start i just exec xmonad ? |
| 2023-03-22 08:31:54 | <geekosaur[m]> | Yes |
| 2023-03-22 08:33:22 | <thyriaen> | thanks a lot geekosaur, it works now :p |
| 2023-03-22 08:42:31 | <geekosaur> | you should probably file a bug against your distro that they should check ~/.config/xmonad before forcing ~/.xmonad |
| 2023-03-22 08:43:48 | <geekosaur> | and possibly should default to XDG for new installs |
| 2023-03-22 08:57:57 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, i will try to do that |
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