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2022-12-28 14:39:09 <diep> Hi! What happens when "kill" is called to close/delete a window? Is a "close request" sent to the targeted window or the window process is brutally "killed"?
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2022-12-28 14:41:06 <Solid> diep: both; we first ask the window to delete itself, but if it doesn't do that we "brutally kill it"
2022-12-28 14:42:16 <Solid> (where "if it doesn't do that" means that it doesn't advertise the required deletion atom)
2022-12-28 14:44:50 <diep> ok thx, because Im developing some native application in Rust using the iced library, and it does not receive the "WindowCloseRequested" event as it should. So I was not sure where is located the problem, but sounds like in the library side.
2022-12-28 14:52:38 <geekosaur> make sure the window advertises WM_DELETE_WINDOW properly
2022-12-28 14:58:59 <geekosaur> basically, when the window is open, XPROP it and look at the WM_PROTOCOLS property. if it includes WM_DELETE_WINDOW then we'll send WM_DELETE_WINDOW to the window; if it's not then we call XKill()
2022-12-28 14:59:12 <geekosaur> er, `xprop`
2022-12-28 15:06:34 <diep> I see `WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols WM_DELETE_WINDOW, _NET_WM_PING`
2022-12-28 15:06:44 <diep> should be good then
2022-12-28 15:07:18 <geekosaur> then we should be sending WM_DELETE_WINDOW. there's no fallback on the xmonad side where it would XKill() a window if it doesn't respond or anything like that
2022-12-28 15:12:22 <diep> ok thx for the details, I'll investigate with iced
2022-12-28 15:46:52 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Brandon S Allbery KF8NH * v0.17.1-104-g4998e946: fix EWMH titles (2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/4998e946ccbb
2022-12-28 15:46:54 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-106-g55855ccb: Merge pull request #785 from geekosaur/debugwindow-fix-netwm (3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/55855ccb5fb1
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2022-12-29 00:34:31 <geekosaur> @tell diep one thing I didn't mention is that XKill doesn't kill the process, as the X server may not have permissions or even know what process (consider a remote connection). It closes the server socket corresponding to the window's client. Most clients will catch an error on their next X11 operation and die, but one in e.g. an infinite loop won't notice
2022-12-29 00:34:31 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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