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2021-07-16 10:35:47 <maerwald> Any nice way to get around the MonadReader limitation of only being able to provide one environment? I'm thinking to just ditch it altogether
2021-07-16 10:35:56 <dminuoso> maerwald: implicit params.
2021-07-16 10:36:11 <dminuoso> It's just as good, but composable - and no param passing when you dont need it. :)
2021-07-16 10:36:14 <maerwald> they are unsafe no?
2021-07-16 10:36:18 <dminuoso> unsafe in what way?
2021-07-16 10:36:34 <maerwald> dunno, heard some claims
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2021-07-16 10:38:00 <dminuoso> See https://chrisdone.com/posts/whats-wrong-with-implicitparams/
2021-07-16 10:38:08 <dminuoso> And https://old.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/m8o88a/who_still_uses_readert/grkh17q/
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2021-07-16 10:39:58 <maerwald> so it breaks type inference
2021-07-16 10:41:01 <maerwald> i think explicit params might be the solution :p
2021-07-16 10:41:03 <Taneb> maerwald: if you're comfortable using lens there's Magnify in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-5.0.1/docs/Control-Lens-Zoom.html
2021-07-16 10:43:34 <maerwald> Taneb: isn't that just splitting environment into smaller parts, tree-wise? But you still need to construct the entirety of it?
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2021-07-16 10:43:59 <maerwald> My problem is that part of the env requires network calls to be constructed, the other doesn't
2021-07-16 10:44:35 <maerwald> I'm able to hack around it with unsafeInterleaveIO, but that makes exception handling a horror story
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2021-07-16 10:46:24 <Taneb> maerwald: ah, yeah
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