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2021-06-11 03:47:35 BosonCollider joins (~olofs@90-227-86-119-no542.tbcn.telia.com)
2021-06-11 03:48:55 <hololeap> the network and tls packages can do what you want, but they're pretty low-level
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2021-06-11 03:50:35 <hololeap> one good way to search is to enter a keyword in https://hackage.haskell.org/packages/search and then sort by total downloads
2021-06-11 03:50:41 <qrpnxz> https://termbin.com/073q don't look so bad
2021-06-11 03:50:49 <qrpnxz> alright thanks
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2021-06-11 03:51:07 <hololeap> typing "tls" in there brought up https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tcp-streams
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2021-06-11 03:51:53 <qrpnxz> this one will do tcp as well
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2021-06-11 03:53:00 <hololeap> sometimes there are two or more competing packages for the same goal, in which case you can look for something about them on reddit or stack exchange
2021-06-11 03:53:06 <qrpnxz> guess it's hard to live up to the go stdlib, that's got so much. IPv{4,6}, TCP, UDP, TLS, HTTP, HTTPS, DNS, RSA, EDDSA, and so on
2021-06-11 03:53:37 <qrpnxz> roger that
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2021-06-11 03:54:33 <juhp> What are "yellow" package versions on Hackage?
2021-06-11 03:55:02 <boxscape> qrpnxz I think part may also be that the haskell "leadership" would rather the community finds what the best way to do things is by having an open playing field, rather than mandating one standard from the top down. Though there are pros and cons to both approaches.
2021-06-11 03:55:14 <hololeap> something that I read once said that Haskell is the opposite of Ruby on Rails, in that RoR has one "blessed" way of doing anything, whereas Haskell has 100 ways
2021-06-11 03:55:32 <hololeap> so it's just something you have to get used to about the ecosystem
2021-06-11 03:55:48 <juhp> eg https://hackage.haskell.org/package/crypto-enigma
2021-06-11 03:55:49 <qrpnxz> boxscape, i mean, nothing prevents you from making your own go http library (indeed, there are many)
2021-06-11 03:56:14 <qrpnxz> there is a Data.Text alternative even so applies to haskell as well
2021-06-11 03:56:35 <boxscape> qrpnxz sure, but I think probably fewer people will use it when similar functionality exists in the stdlib
2021-06-11 03:57:01 <hololeap> although fpcomplete (and by extension the rio package) has been trying to make a "blessed" way for everything, so that would be a good place to check if you get overwhelmed
2021-06-11 03:57:03 <boxscape> (and it means you have to maintain the standard way of doing things even if the community switches over to a third-party package)
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2021-06-11 03:57:55 <qrpnxz> Cause the stdlib one is really good. Sometimes the other libs are used if you need to go fast and loose or smth like that. Actually many stdlib pkgs have been even deprecated when external libraries became way better
2021-06-11 03:58:24 <boxscape> juhp the css class that makes it yellow is called "unpreferred"
2021-06-11 03:58:39 <juhp> boxscape: ah thanks!
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2021-06-11 04:00:04 <boxscape> qrpnxz ah, yeah, I suppose allowing yourself to deprecate parts of the stdlib means you don't have some of the downsides
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