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2026-04-16 01:18:28 × spew quits (~spew@user/spew) (Quit: nyaa~)
2026-04-16 01:18:32 <drbean> This 'cabal update' is not particularly pressing.
2026-04-16 01:19:12 <geekosaur> that's not what cabal update does anyway. (also -v3 might have it)
2026-04-16 01:19:44 <drbean> But the broken installation process with ghcup and cabal is something I want to fix
2026-04-16 01:20:37 <geekosaur> it downloads an 01-index.tar.gz which as a complete index of hackage's contents' cabal files
2026-04-16 01:21:51 <geekosaur> and then indexes that; actual updates happen later when packages are (re)built, but the index's contents inform the solver for picking versions of packages/dependencies
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2026-04-16 01:23:48 <drbean> Can cabal build the index from a cached file, like ghcup can for installing hls, etc?
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2026-04-16 01:24:59 <geekosaur> I'm not sure what you think is going on there. the cached file already has its associated indiexes. what it doesn't have is any new uploads to Hackage
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2026-04-16 01:25:57 <geekosaur> ghcup, on the other hand, only deals with a handful of tools and gets information about those from a yaml file which it tries to update periodically
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2026-04-16 01:27:00 <drbean> If it can, I will use curl to download https://hackage.haskell.org/.../01-index.tar.gz. Where doesit put the 01-index tarball?
2026-04-16 01:27:03 <geekosaur> if it fails, obviously you won't see new versions of things, but you can still instaall and switch between versions it kn ows about via the cached file. cabal also continues to work if `cabal update` (after the very first one) fails, it just won't know about newer packages
2026-04-16 01:27:45 <drbean> OK. 'cabal update' isn't a pressing issue.
2026-04-16 01:28:03 <drbean> Good to know.
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2026-04-16 01:31:35 <geekosaur> I have $HOME/.cache/cabal/packages/hackage.haskell.org/01-index.tar.gz but I use XDG mode. it'll be under $HOME/.cabal in old mode. don't know where Windows puts it
2026-04-16 01:31:57 <geekosaur> (I think the packages dir is directly in ~/.cabal in old style?)
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2026-04-16 01:38:26 <drbean> Thanks. Mrs Bean says I have to eat.
2026-04-16 01:38:34 <drbean> Bye
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