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2025-11-15 19:28:20 <haskellbridge> <sm> tcard_ hi.. is the rust-focussed https://engineering.iog.io/2023-01-26-hs-bindgen-introduction/ the same as that being discussed at https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3759164.3759350 ?
2025-11-15 19:28:33 <haskellbridge> <sm> or is it a name collision ?
2025-11-15 19:29:44 <c_wraith> pretty sure that's the same tool.
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2025-11-15 19:32:09 <int-e> https://github.com/well-typed/hs-bindgen looks quite different from https://github.com/yvan-sraka/hs-bindgen
2025-11-15 19:32:31 <int-e> (voting for name collision)
2025-11-15 19:34:01 <haskellbridge> <sm> for context: the entertaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhaBzbzEbKg video struggled to bring C structs across the FFI boundary and I wondered what's current best practice, and magic_rb pointed me to hs-bindgen
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2025-11-15 19:39:19 <haskellbridge> <sm> great links, thank you
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2025-11-15 20:27:32 <geekosaur> I opped up because they're working on services. But I'm a little busy so ping me if needed
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2025-11-15 20:36:05 <jreicher> dolio: I take your point (two points, really), but I don't think it's like fixing evaluation order any more than the normal lambda calculus is. I think it's a confusion in the story we are telling about types and arguments. Take, for example, in a Church-numeral arithmetic, that we would probably have (* 0 (K 5)) -> 0, but (* (K 5) 0) -> 5 (or maybe (K (K 5)), etc. depending on implementation of *). What's going on here is (K 5) is not
2025-11-15 20:36:05 <jreicher> the sort of object that should be given to the usual story of *, but if we ignore that story what happened is perfectly fine, because abstractions are not commutative.
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