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2025-10-09 17:40:38 <[exa]> tomsmeding: you can't do the paperclip thesis? (you submit papers and write a <50pp commentary on the story behind)
2025-10-09 17:40:54 <shapr> maybe my Dutch will improve next year, it's my hope to end up in that country.
2025-10-09 17:41:08 <tomsmeding> [exa]: it was an option, but neiter me nor my supervisors preferred that
2025-10-09 17:41:21 <tomsmeding> if this was to be an actual consistent book there'd be a whole lot more to be done
2025-10-09 17:41:41 <tomsmeding> as it is there's some content duplication between two papers, some stuff that doesn't really belong, etc.
2025-10-09 17:41:46 <tomsmeding> it's _mostly_ consistent
2025-10-09 17:41:48 <[exa]> like, this is insane amount of work
2025-10-09 17:42:04 <tomsmeding> ch. 3, 4 and 6 are copy-pasta from already-written publications though
2025-10-09 17:42:11 <[exa]> you might want to make a self-standing book out of that
2025-10-09 17:42:12 <tomsmeding> ch. 1, 2, 5, 8 are new
2025-10-09 17:42:25 <tomsmeding> shapr: ooh what are you going to do here
2025-10-09 17:42:49 <shapr> escape the USA, mostly
2025-10-09 17:42:59 <shapr> continue being self employed, maybe join a hackerspace?
2025-10-09 17:43:02 <tomsmeding> oh, to people here wanting to learn about automatic differentiation: I recommend section 2.2 in my background
2025-10-09 17:43:17 <tomsmeding> I wrote it as an intro to AD for functional programmers, and I have one good review already
2025-10-09 17:43:24 <shapr> that sounds exciting
2025-10-09 17:43:37 <tomsmeding> shapr: that makes sense
2025-10-09 17:44:04 <tomsmeding> I'm looking for postdocs and it's possible that I'll be leaving the country, but we'll see that after I submit :p
2025-10-09 17:44:12 <tomsmeding> in any case, let me know if you do end up here
2025-10-09 17:44:22 <tomsmeding> it's not a very big country
2025-10-09 17:44:48 <tomsmeding> [exa]: re self-standing book: what I wrote above lol
2025-10-09 17:45:06 <tomsmeding> I'm not sure I want to spend the effort to make this an actual consistent book
2025-10-09 17:45:15 <tomsmeding> enough time went into those papers and the rest already
2025-10-09 17:45:25 <[exa]> ah okay :D
2025-10-09 17:45:34 <shapr> put up the source and solicit improvements? or just go on to the next publication?
2025-10-09 17:46:06 <tomsmeding> the latter in case I continue in academia, neither if I end up outside academia, I guess?
2025-10-09 17:46:20 <tomsmeding> would you like the source to be up?
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2025-10-09 17:46:53 <tomsmeding> all the code is public; do people really want a bunch of LaTeX too?
2025-10-09 17:46:57 <shapr> hm, I dunno if I'll have time to put up any fixes
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2025-10-09 17:47:12 <shapr> I'm a big fan of LaTeX, but that's me
2025-10-09 17:47:40 <tomsmeding> I guess you can look at my beautiful TikZ code then
2025-10-09 17:47:44 <shapr> yay!
2025-10-09 17:47:50 <shapr> I haven't learned TikZ yet
2025-10-09 17:48:16 <tomsmeding> Fig. 2.4 on page 13 actually uses a loop inside TikZ
2025-10-09 17:49:46 <shapr> re the unset comment from earlier, I have to do that to get today's date in my invoices in NixOS
2025-10-09 17:50:19 <tomsmeding> oh _right_ nix
2025-10-09 17:50:23 <tomsmeding> I don't use nix
2025-10-09 17:50:28 <shapr> fair enough
2025-10-09 17:50:32 <tomsmeding> but yeah makes sense
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2025-10-09 17:53:57 <shapr> I'm guessing EVM is not ethereum virtual machine?
2025-10-09 17:54:14 <tomsmeding> lol no
2025-10-09 17:54:17 <tomsmeding> Environment Vector Monad
2025-10-09 17:54:26 <shapr> Oh, I got my brain eaten by monoidal hashing last week
2025-10-09 17:54:27 <tomsmeding> it's an accumulation state monad
2025-10-09 17:54:32 <shapr> ah thanks
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2025-10-09 17:55:31 <tomsmeding> oh you were looking at the ToC I guess
2025-10-09 17:55:57 <shapr> and I jumped to the EVM code, didn't look like ethereum
2025-10-09 17:56:11 <shapr> It's so nice to be able to click the table of contents and jump to that location
2025-10-09 17:56:12 <tomsmeding> I expect it didn't, no
2025-10-09 17:56:15 <tomsmeding> yes
2025-10-09 17:58:37 <tomsmeding> the little TODOs in the margin are also kind of cute
2025-10-09 17:58:51 <shapr> yeah, got several smiles from them
2025-10-09 17:59:00 <tomsmeding> I switched to that halfway through the process or so, the nice thing is that they don't influence the layout of the text
2025-10-09 17:59:18 <tomsmeding> shapr: which ones made you smile?
2025-10-09 17:59:53 <tomsmeding> the boo part is that those margin notes (\marginpar) don't work in footnotes
2025-10-09 18:00:10 <tomsmeding> spawning a float from inside a float-like thing is apparently too floaty for TeX
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2025-10-09 18:06:15 <shapr> tomsmeding: "whatever fash CHAD ends up achieving" was the first smile
2025-10-09 18:06:29 <tomsmeding> heh
2025-10-09 18:06:39 <tomsmeding> that's in-progress work that may or may not partially end up in this thing
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2025-10-09 18:07:05 <tomsmeding> more fun TeX shenanigans: the "line numbers" in the big display math on page 215
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2025-10-09 19:24:41 <Anarchos> how can i install ghc-7.10.3 on a recent ubuntu ?
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