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2020-10-06 08:08:27 hackage servant-auth-client 0.4.1.0 - servant-client/servant-auth compatibility https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-auth-client-0.4.1.0 (domenkozar)
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2020-10-06 08:12:58 hackage polysemy-zoo 0.7.0.1 - Experimental, user-contributed effects and interpreters for polysemy https://hackage.haskell.org/package/polysemy-zoo-0.7.0.1 (KingoftheHomeless)
2020-10-06 08:17:57 hackage servant-auth-server 0.4.6.0 - servant-server/servant-auth compatibility https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-auth-server-0.4.6.0 (domenkozar)
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2020-10-06 08:24:58 hackage servant-auth-swagger 0.2.10.1 - servant-swagger/servant-auth compatibility https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-auth-swagger-0.2.10.1 (domenkozar)
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2020-10-06 08:48:37 <shaman_king> hi all
2020-10-06 08:48:49 <shaman_king> i want to learn more about haskell and beyond
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2020-10-06 08:55:53 <shaman_king> hi
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2020-10-06 09:04:58 hackage aterm 0.1.0.2 - serialisation for Haskell values with sharing support https://hackage.haskell.org/package/aterm-0.1.0.2 (ChristianMaeder)
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2020-10-06 09:18:32 <tomsmeding> If I have a type class 'C s a' with an associated type 'type T a', how can I promise that for every instance 'C s a', the type 'T a' will be an instance of class 'D' (i.e. we will have 'D (T a)')?
2020-10-06 09:19:14 <tomsmeding> alternatively, can I promise that for a particular instance
2020-10-06 09:19:22 <shaman_king> i think thats wrong.
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2020-10-06 09:20:24 <tomsmeding> how so?
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2020-10-06 09:26:28 hackage attoparsec-data 1.0.5 - Parsers for the standard Haskell data types https://hackage.haskell.org/package/attoparsec-data-1.0.5 (NikitaVolkov)
2020-10-06 09:27:17 <cpressey> tomsmeding: I would be surprised if you could say that directly, but maybe you could constraints on 'a' in both C and D? Or perhaps a smart constructor for D's?
2020-10-06 09:27:31 <shaman_king> its wrong
2020-10-06 09:27:34 <dminuoso> tomsmeding: MPTC+fundeps instead of associated types, then you could make it a superclass constraints
2020-10-06 09:27:59 <tomsmeding> problem is that I don't control D, though I do control C
2020-10-06 09:27:59 <dminuoso> Or.. is the superclass constraint possible perhaps?
2020-10-06 09:28:24 <tomsmeding> basically, this is a "shim" for D
2020-10-06 09:29:07 <tomsmeding> ah yes putting T as a type argument to C and using fundeps might work...
2020-10-06 09:29:09 shaman_king parts (b94186b1@185.65.134.177) ()
2020-10-06 09:29:15 <tomsmeding> interesting visit
2020-10-06 09:29:39 <dminuoso> % class D (T a) => C s a where type T a
2020-10-06 09:29:40 <yahb> dminuoso:
2020-10-06 09:29:43 <dminuoso> tomsmeding: ^- this seems to work fine
2020-10-06 09:29:52 <tomsmeding> oooooooh
2020-10-06 09:30:07 tomsmeding is off to the editor
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