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2021-04-23 18:28:52 <wroathe> monochrom: If all we're talking is practice
2021-04-23 18:29:13 <monochrom> In practice, what I have seen:
2021-04-23 18:29:22 <monochrom> 1. tags are always in ascii
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2021-04-23 18:29:39 <jrp> Thanks for your suggestions monochrom minoru_shiraeesh geekosaur
2021-04-23 18:29:40 <monochrom> 2. people can declare one encoding and use another
2021-04-23 18:29:40 <hyperisco> what encodings are you running into that are not compatible with ASCII?
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2021-04-23 18:29:58 <maerwald> there's a way to auto-detect encoding
2021-04-23 18:30:02 <wroathe> monochrom: #2 is a really good point
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2021-04-23 18:31:24 <maerwald> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/charsetdetect-1.1.0.2
2021-04-23 18:31:29 <monochrom> 0. The overarching observation: people cargo-cult from other people and never actually read the spec like you do
2021-04-23 18:31:44 <maerwald> there was a newer one
2021-04-23 18:31:59 <monochrom> this is why they don't know that class="λ" is a thing.
2021-04-23 18:32:03 <wroathe> maerwald: That's awesome. Thanks for the link.
2021-04-23 18:32:12 <hyperisco> if only there was a way to detect when a JSON or XML document was served with text/html media type
2021-04-23 18:32:44 <monochrom> this is why they declare one encoding then use another. Their editor is set to the latter, but they plagiarize from an HTML file that uses the former.
2021-04-23 18:33:15 <wroathe> hyperisco: Well, the JSON detection is a bit easier to do
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2021-04-23 18:33:32 <wroathe> hyperisco: Because < isn't the beginning of a valid JSON token
2021-04-23 18:33:45 <wroathe> hyperisco: And for XML it would require more advanced heuristics
2021-04-23 18:34:02 <wroathe> hyperisco: Like detecting if there's an XML DTD
2021-04-23 18:34:39 <hyperisco> well you better get on it because there are PHP backends serving the wrong media type everywhere
2021-04-23 18:34:48 <wroathe> hyperisco: hahahaha
2021-04-23 18:35:46 <maerwald> wroathe: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/charsetdetect-ae
2021-04-23 18:35:49 <maerwald> there's another one
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2021-04-23 18:39:14 <dexterfoo> I added "HasCallStack" constraint to my function. Now my function calls itself (tail-)recursively. When I print the callstack i see all of the recursive calls. How can I make the function recursively call itself without adding another stack frame? freezing the callstack doesn't work because then when I call other functions I don't get the added stackframes
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2021-04-23 18:43:47 <geekosaur> dexterfoo, delegate the recursive call to a subfunction? foo x y z = go x y z where go a b c = ... (and no HasCallStack constraint)
2021-04-23 18:44:46 <dexterfoo> geekosaur: thanks, i will try
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