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2020-09-25 10:10:18 <maerwald> there's no forkFinally equivalent in async?
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2020-09-25 10:21:27 hackage Z-IO 0.1.1.2 - Simple and high performance IO toolkit for Haskell https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Z-IO-0.1.1.2 (winterland)
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2020-09-25 10:55:07 <maralorn> That reminds me of the horrible time I worked with a custom language for evaluating measurements of certain measurement devices written by the vendor. In there arrays where the primary data structure for stuff like time series of an oscilloscope.
2020-09-25 10:56:03 <maralorn> I lost at least on day to debugging, before I learnad that their indexing operator gave you the last element of an array when you gave it an out-of-bounds index (silently without any error message).
2020-09-25 10:57:01 <maralorn> I don‘t want to know how many published experimental results are secretly wrong because of that crazy language design decision. /o\
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2020-09-25 11:16:34 <dminuoso> Mmm, I wish more code would be written MonadIO polymorphic. :(
2020-09-25 11:17:00 <dminuoso> The amount of liftIO sprinkling is getting somewhat annoying
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2020-09-25 11:18:32 <kenran> dminuoso: I second that...
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2020-09-25 11:46:09 <maerwald> don't use transformers
2020-09-25 11:46:11 <maerwald> :p
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2020-09-25 11:46:47 <[exa]> isn't this "solved" in some of the alternative preludes? (rererebase?)
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2020-09-25 11:50:31 <maerwald> transformers look like an effects DLS, but they feel like an OOP pattern
2020-09-25 11:51:01 <dminuoso> maerwald: This has nothing to do with transformers.
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2020-09-25 11:51:27 <maerwald> how so?
2020-09-25 11:51:49 <dminuoso> [exa]: an alternative prelude would give you huge transitive dependency footprints if this is done widely
2020-09-25 11:51:56 <dminuoso> My beef is not just with base, but packages in general.
2020-09-25 11:52:10 <maerwald> why are you using liftIO if you don't have any transformers in your code
2020-09-25 11:52:20 <fendor> can I derive Monoid and Semigroup for a datatype where all fields are an instance of semigroup and monoid?

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